tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post1710166525536075847..comments2024-03-28T20:09:43.455-04:00Comments on Touch the Banner: Poll results: What position does Michigan need to recruit most in 2014?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-28510070313737051022014-01-29T11:09:22.635-05:002014-01-29T11:09:22.635-05:00I said "a bit." It might've been a f...I said "a bit." It might've been a factor. That's all I am saying. These are 18-22yr old kids.suduri xusaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13514381713516547280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-65808685235046137612014-01-29T09:32:43.249-05:002014-01-29T09:32:43.249-05:00I would never object to passing on a player who...I would never object to passing on a player who's struggling to qualify. It's a bit much to expect him to succeed academically here. I hope he does well somewhere, but Michigan shouldn't be the best fit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-28611111805957152682014-01-28T22:55:54.775-05:002014-01-28T22:55:54.775-05:00Would you let that go already? There is no way Mic...Would you let that go already? There is no way Michigan played that bad because of something that probably half the team didn't know aboutAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-33717445791029637632014-01-28T20:51:47.795-05:002014-01-28T20:51:47.795-05:00I think the dichotomy is the result of too much co...I think the dichotomy is the result of too much consideration of recruiting rankings - which really shouldn't take class size into account, at least not before signing day.Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-31927034758827368062014-01-28T20:50:54.331-05:002014-01-28T20:50:54.331-05:00How dare you damn Vincent Smith!?!
Norfleet looks...How dare you damn Vincent Smith!?!<br /><br />Norfleet looks tough and strong to me. He's small, there's not doubt, but I think he brings it - as shown on defensive special teams.Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-60155262202954129182014-01-28T20:48:42.463-05:002014-01-28T20:48:42.463-05:00Disagree - even when we had coaching that was prov...Disagree - even when we had coaching that was proven, busts along the OL were not uncommon. The nature of recruiting is that talent doesn't ensure production. Michigan is crossing it's fingers that they'll get a full OL out of essentially two recruiting classes. It's a risk. Not an unreasonable one, but a significant one.Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-23038687537966059142014-01-28T19:43:34.236-05:002014-01-28T19:43:34.236-05:00Okay Ben, sorry I have a friend named Benjamin who...Okay Ben, sorry I have a friend named Benjamin who goes by that.<br /><br />It really depends on the kid, I think. Some kids might care more about playing time, and that' ok too. But if he is smart and cares about life after football, which is going to be most of his life, then he should consider academics as well. And he's a local kid (Oakland County), so if i was a coach then I'd try to reel him in using academics. Basically nobody in the country knows about schools like Toledo or WMU except those living in Ohio and Michigan, and their academics don't stand out (no offense to anyone who went to those schools). You won't get any advantage in the job market.<br />Why not get the Michigan education and still be part of Michigan football team? That's what I'd do.suduri xusaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13514381713516547280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-36166085847776316642014-01-28T19:06:34.024-05:002014-01-28T19:06:34.024-05:00Please call me Ben or Benjamin, I don't really...Please call me Ben or Benjamin, I don't really like the name Benji. And, it's very hard to convince a 17 year old to go to a school because of academics when he's almost guaranteed playing time at a lower level school. Honestly, the only way he'd get a PWO offer is if he still only has MAC level offers well into January and shows signs of interest in Michigan still.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-3510938326408764712014-01-28T18:44:34.643-05:002014-01-28T18:44:34.643-05:00It might have taken the air out of guys. Obviously...It might have taken the air out of guys. Obviously a number of guys on the team didn't give their best efforts. This is according to what the guys said in the postgame interview.suduri xusaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13514381713516547280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-36062811585897051892014-01-28T18:42:50.407-05:002014-01-28T18:42:50.407-05:00I know Benji. It would be a tall order for him to ...I know Benji. It would be a tall order for him to see the field, but he'd be part of Michigan. That might be better than going to some school that nobody heard of. He should realize by now that he won't make it in the NFL unless something drastic happens. Why not go to a better school and be part of something great in the process?suduri xusaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13514381713516547280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-72286015829066574922014-01-28T18:40:11.183-05:002014-01-28T18:40:11.183-05:00Get out of here, there is no way that what happene...Get out of here, there is no way that what happened with Gibbons had anything to do with the bowl performance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-22792566521344166832014-01-28T18:35:11.648-05:002014-01-28T18:35:11.648-05:00Well, it is a new low. I hope this is an isolated ...Well, it is a new low. I hope this is an isolated incident without involvement of coaches, other students, etc. I know this happened during the RR tenure, so Hoke's staff wasn't directly involved. But the question is why did it take so long to get to this state. <br /><br />This also explains a bit about the lackluster performance in the bowl game. Some student-athletes might have been disillusioned with what happened re: Gibbons. suduri xusaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13514381713516547280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-66689069981010923302014-01-28T18:22:38.345-05:002014-01-28T18:22:38.345-05:00No, Suduri, because if he accepted a PWO to Michig...No, Suduri, because if he accepted a PWO to Michigan over MAC offers, that pretty much solidifies him never having a chance to even make it to the two deep on Michigan's roster, but if he went to a MAC school on scholarship he'd have a great chance of being at least considered for a starting position.Benjaminnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-22200655596024681362014-01-28T18:06:29.219-05:002014-01-28T18:06:29.219-05:00Well, according to 247, he has offers from: Bowlin...Well, according to 247, he has offers from: Bowling Green, CMU, Old Dominion, Toledo, and WMU. I am thinking he MIGHT accept the PWO option given where he is from (a Detroit suburb, so Michigan is the closest from home) and academics. I am sure Malzone would want a scholarship, but if that's not going to be the case wouldn't be want U of M as PWO? He's in-state so the tuition also wouldnt be much.suduri xusaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13514381713516547280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-52539283267121040312014-01-28T17:41:32.082-05:002014-01-28T17:41:32.082-05:00How bad is the football program going to be hammer...How bad is the football program going to be hammered for the Brendan Gibbons sexual assault and cover up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-48093511147043531252014-01-28T17:39:00.286-05:002014-01-28T17:39:00.286-05:00Wyoming>Western Michigan, MWC>MACWyoming>Western Michigan, MWC>MACAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-3723350245464949432014-01-28T17:24:00.255-05:002014-01-28T17:24:00.255-05:00Rivals lists Glasgow's offers as being from Il...Rivals lists Glasgow's offers as being from Illinois State, North Dakota, North Dakota State, South Dakota, and Wyoming. Malzone already has better offers than that.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-83867257979557701632014-01-28T17:12:12.410-05:002014-01-28T17:12:12.410-05:00While I definitely agree with you, Ryan Glasgow ha...While I definitely agree with you, Ryan Glasgow had a few FBS offers aswell, in conferences bigger than the MAC, yet he went to Michigan as a PWO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-41636411235193610202014-01-28T16:22:09.782-05:002014-01-28T16:22:09.782-05:00I think that would be a little insulting. Malzone ...I think that would be a little insulting. Malzone has FBS offers, and he can play at that level. I agree that Michigan has bigger fish to fry at the QB position, but I think the best scenario for both parties would be for Michigan to get another QB and for Malzone to go somewhere else and potentially thrive.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-68684315853104155432014-01-28T16:20:41.555-05:002014-01-28T16:20:41.555-05:00"The wheels fall off" is kind of an over..."The wheels fall off" is kind of an overreaction. Michigan has missed out on a couple high-profile guys (like Da'Shawn Hand) that had plenty of other suitors and good reason to choose other schools. You know what? Literally every school out there could say the same thing. Michigan has offered 128 prospects in this recruiting class. The bottom line is that when you're taking a class of 17 or so, you're bound to miss on 120+ prospects. Michigan got to 16 commits in August and was only pursuing a couple more guys, so that's more like "The coaches need to get the left rear tire patched" rather than "The wheels fell off."Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-71077231868559168752014-01-28T16:15:38.300-05:002014-01-28T16:15:38.300-05:00Nah, recruiting on the OL is overkill. The guys ar...Nah, recruiting on the OL is overkill. The guys are plenty talented. If they can't develop, it's a coaching issue. If it's a coaching issue, you get a new coach. There's no point in spending more scholarship on linemen. We have plenty.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-28260472988907995872014-01-28T16:14:30.169-05:002014-01-28T16:14:30.169-05:00Norfleet has been bounced around so much (RB, WR, ...Norfleet has been bounced around so much (RB, WR, CB) that I'm not sure what to think. I wouldn't be opposed to him getting the ball out of the backfield, but I do think blocking would be an issue, Vincent Smith be damned. Norfleet just doesn't have that toughness in him, I don't think.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-90157357810162249002014-01-28T15:16:03.736-05:002014-01-28T15:16:03.736-05:00The early success has been overstated. M gets 10 ...The early success has been overstated. M gets 10 commits before anyone else and suddenly their class ranking is top 5 but the drop is inevitable when other schools catch up in numbers.<br /><br />Furthermore, a school like Texas that traditionally had their pick of talent realized there were significant drawbacks to filling up your entire class before kids get a chance to play their senior years.<br /><br />I think M fans tend to overrate the early commitments. Some of it is just "yay we got a guy!" but a lot of it is "Hoke is killing it on the recruiting trail." It's nice for the coaches but ultimately what matters is the class that signs, not their commitment date.<br /><br />Theres a lot of talk about 'momentum' and recruiting from people like Shane Morris but I'm not convinced by it. Ricardo Miller's class didn't do much despite all the hype about him bringing other guys in. Speight and Peppers didn't affect Hand. Cole couldn't convince Campbell to stick. Etc.<br /><br />The thing I look at more than anything else is offers. If we're beating OSU and Notre Dame for kids, we're doing well and I perk up. If their offer list is unexceptional, the needle doesn't move unless there is something specific to get excited about. In other words, if a kid signs in July that's a spot gone for another kid that might sign in February, so whatever.<br /><br /><br /><br />Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-24945849900685945982014-01-28T15:05:08.613-05:002014-01-28T15:05:08.613-05:00Also - none of those guys are proven yet. We hope...Also - none of those guys are proven yet. We hope we can find 5 starters there...but what if we can't?<br /><br />Number of bodies is one thing, number of PROVEN bodies is another. <br /><br />A Jake Butt in the hand is worth two 4-stars in the bush! [kinda-Butt-jokes!]<br /><br />Right now our O-linemen are questionable as starters, although Kalis, Magnuson, and Bosch all seem promising given they actually played as youngsters. Need to find a few more and hope no attrition hits. <br /><br />The OL remains the biggest worry on the roster to me. Recruiting '14 players maybe isn't going to fix that but until the problem is sufficiently solved I'd like to see continued attention. I'd rather cut corners elsewhere to see ensured success on the OL.Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-35892214545070639292014-01-28T14:59:36.704-05:002014-01-28T14:59:36.704-05:00I wouldn't assume Norfleet can't block giv...I wouldn't assume Norfleet can't block given the Vincent Smith precedent. I would agree it's too soon to give up on him as a RB entirely.Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.com