tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post3644278622963266855..comments2024-03-28T20:09:43.455-04:00Comments on Touch the Banner: Who fits and who doesn't?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-67895817792269309232011-01-14T20:34:14.100-05:002011-01-14T20:34:14.100-05:00we kinda just let VY get the ball and make a play....we kinda just let VY get the ball and make a play. our play calling has sucked for awhile. im sure we had some sort of scheme but the running joke for texas fans is that Greg Davis(former(THANK GOD) offensive coach) ran a napkin playbook. as in his 3-4 plays were scribbled on a napkin that he used for breakfast on his way to work. and if we ran a trick play it wasnt opening up the playbook. it was opening up the napkin. to b honest denard robinson is too fast compared to his competition to not be successful to some degree. <br /><br />hornAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-51531181586310793902011-01-14T12:05:37.491-05:002011-01-14T12:05:37.491-05:00Magnus, I'm a little shocked you allow useless...Magnus, I'm a little shocked you allow useless trolls like Poole1Dan on your blog.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12342230002415073793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-43701540508864767882011-01-13T16:39:50.435-05:002011-01-13T16:39:50.435-05:00Thanks for the response.
Denard did show a lot of...Thanks for the response.<br /><br />Denard did show a lot of improvement both mentally and accuraccy-wise from years 1 to 2, which hopefully indicates he has the work ethic and intelligence to keep getting better.BMLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-91495547344324914222011-01-13T15:45:29.103-05:002011-01-13T15:45:29.103-05:00Nice analysis. But there's a key factor about ...Nice analysis. But there's a key factor about the QB position that must be considered: Hoke's offensive flexibility. He's supposed to meet with Denard and the other players today. If Hoke tells Denard that he's commited to running a Penn State-style Spread HD, then not only will Robinson stay, but so will the slot receivers. However, if Hoke is stubborn like dickrod was in 2008 and jams square pegs into round holes, we'll be stuck with yet another freshmen starter at QB, and despite the surrounding talent, the transition will be messy.<br /><br />Here's to hoping Hoke commits to the Spread HD and phases the prostyle in gradually.<br /><br />Go Blue!Poole1Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08496596674783923189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-60951904813678393162011-01-13T14:59:28.294-05:002011-01-13T14:59:28.294-05:00Thanks for the response.
I guess one hopeful sign...Thanks for the response.<br /><br />I guess one hopeful sign is the amount he improved from freshman to sophomore year, both as a thrower and at learning plays and reading defenses. (Remember how shocking the spring game was?) Granted, it brought him to a level that is still not fantastic (pure passing-wise), but it does imply a work ethic and intelligence that could lead to further improvement.BMLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-88146628606928241312011-01-13T13:45:36.596-05:002011-01-13T13:45:36.596-05:00@ BML 1:36 p.m.
I think Tyrod Taylor was a more n...@ BML 1:36 p.m.<br /><br />I think Tyrod Taylor was a more natural quarterback than Denard Robinson at the same age. There's still room left for Robinson to improve, but he's just really fidgety and pretty inaccurate. <br /><br />I liked the way VT used Tyrod Taylor on rollouts and such. I just don't know that Robinson can do what Taylor did, which is make plays with his arm. He's got the legs. I just don't know if Robinson has the accuracy and recognition skills to pull it off.<br /><br />Vince Young did use the zone read option at Texas, actually. I don't know the percentage of those plays, but it was in the offense.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-4053992661508033812011-01-13T13:36:52.105-05:002011-01-13T13:36:52.105-05:00Magnus, what do you think of how Virginia Tech use...Magnus, what do you think of how Virginia Tech used Tyrod Taylor? He's listed at 6'1", 210, which is closer to Denard than it is to Lumbering Navarre Type Guy.<br /><br />Also curious to learn more about how Vince Young was used at Texas. While I wasn't as scheme-obsessed during his career as I am now, I remember that he had a lot of designed runs despite it not being a zone-read based offense (right?).BMLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-84299757585063729512011-01-13T11:22:30.759-05:002011-01-13T11:22:30.759-05:00Borges worked with Kodi Burns a lot at Auburn and ...Borges worked with Kodi Burns a lot at Auburn and they were running a spread-ish offense then, no?aquaman2342http://ghostsofferry.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-89577265562621909102011-01-12T20:26:19.887-05:002011-01-12T20:26:19.887-05:00He's stated on a couple of occasions today tha...He's stated on a couple of occasions today that he will incorporate Denard and his skill set into this offense as a QBTroyhttp://www.twitter.com/worldwidetrobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-50414634503058884102011-01-12T14:58:59.826-05:002011-01-12T14:58:59.826-05:00SDSU RBs Hillman and Kazee are 5'10 175.SDSU RBs Hillman and Kazee are 5'10 175.Greg McMurtrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-55436138430721955882011-01-12T13:26:53.984-05:002011-01-12T13:26:53.984-05:00"When teams don't have to account for the..."When teams don't have to account for the zone read option on every play, they won't necessarily suck up to the line of scrimmage"<br /><br />Which will make our running backs more effective hopefully, but this also means Denard can still kill them on scrambles, bootlegs, etc. He won't be Pat White anymore, but he might still be Steve Young or Mike Vick.<br /><br />Its hard to know since Borges hasn't had a QB like this before. Like I said before - you don't change your system for Steven Threet...but maybe for Denard Robinson, you do.<br /><br />Its not just about Denard though. Devin Gardner doesn't have pinpoint accuracy either. If his running ability isn't utilized, its a waste.<br /><br />With either guy, Borges will have to adjust.Lankowniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07421144704503213226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-49937351393796178812011-01-12T13:18:55.071-05:002011-01-12T13:18:55.071-05:00I pray that Hoke stays flexibile with his offense ...I pray that Hoke stays flexibile with his offense and plays to Denard's strengths. Figure out some run-heavy offense that empahsizes QB running, some option and play action off of the run. Fucksakes I'm sick and tired of getting a new starting QB every year, and I'm sick of attrition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-45453829222837428782011-01-12T13:13:56.425-05:002011-01-12T13:13:56.425-05:00@ MEZMAN 12:56 p.m.
I still expect Justice Hayes ...@ MEZMAN 12:56 p.m.<br /><br />I still expect Justice Hayes to come in and play WR or RB. He could do either one. He wasn't strictly a slot guy to begin with, so hopefully Michigan is still his school of choice.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-17447130175170693002011-01-12T13:01:39.028-05:002011-01-12T13:01:39.028-05:00@ Alex
Hopefully my above response to Michael S a...@ Alex<br /><br />Hopefully my above response to Michael S answers your questions.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-6018313008329068022011-01-12T12:59:59.786-05:002011-01-12T12:59:59.786-05:00@ Michael S 12:44 p.m.
Robinson is a good enough ...@ Michael S 12:44 p.m.<br /><br />Robinson is a good enough QB for a zone read option type of offense. That's probably not what Hoke will be bringing to the table.<br /><br />It has something to do with his height, but more with his decision making and accuracy. Keep in mind that Denard's performance this year was heavily reliant on a) bubble screens and b) wide open receivers sprung by his running ability.<br /><br />When teams don't have to account for the zone read option on every play, they won't necessarily suck up to the line of scrimmage. For example, Roy Roundtree's long TD catch against Illinois this year probably doesn't happen if Denard isn't an immediate running threat on every play (Denard averaged 20 carries a game). The same goes for Roundtree's TD catch against Mississippi State.<br /><br />Additionally, Robinson isn't all that accurate even on bubble screens. Witness the bowl game when receivers had to dive or jump to catch those quick passes. That leaves very little opportunity for running after the catch.<br /><br />If he has to sit back in the pocket and read a defense, I really don't think that's advantageous for U-M. Maybe Hoke can find a way to utilize his skills at quarterback, but I just don't think the two parties mesh very well when it comes to scheme.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-68667175766014562912011-01-12T12:56:51.713-05:002011-01-12T12:56:51.713-05:00So with the slot position likely to be phased out ...So with the slot position likely to be phased out if not eliminated entirely, what becomes of Justice Hayes (assuming he doesn't decommit)?MEZMANnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-38744813471993392992011-01-12T12:54:02.735-05:002011-01-12T12:54:02.735-05:00If Robinson makes more improvements in his passing...If Robinson makes more improvements in his passing game as he did in last year's offseason, can he fit in this offense? I know that his height limits him, but Hoke's offenses have a lot of plays from the shotgun and also a lot that roll the QB out before passing. Plus Denard being taller would've been an asset in Rodriguez's offense too and it didn't stop him there, right?Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-82163634684721462922011-01-12T12:44:49.887-05:002011-01-12T12:44:49.887-05:00I'm wondering why you're so quick to label...I'm wondering why you're so quick to label Denard Robinson a bad quarterback when he was top 25 in the nation in QB rating in his first year starting? He has the arm, he's mobile... Is it that he's not tall enough?Michael Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-13483525992928087212011-01-12T12:43:06.312-05:002011-01-12T12:43:06.312-05:00Good analysis. My opinion is that while most coac...Good analysis. My opinion is that while most coaches/coordinators definitely have a preferred style, they also have some flexibility within their playbook to emphasize different elements. I would think a significant portion of Borges playbook has some 3 or 4 WR sets that can be utilized more often. I don't expect him to run Malzhan or Kelly's playbooks overnight, but I would expect some wrinkles and some IQSD....regardless of if its Robinson or Gardner starting next year.<br /><br />We can certainly point to many examples of failures to adapt or failures when attempting to adapt, but we can also point to Texas and Ohio State and see how their philosophies evolved to fit their personnel.Lankowniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07421144704503213226noreply@blogger.com