tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post4005908930219941286..comments2024-03-28T20:09:43.455-04:00Comments on Touch the Banner: Scouting Report: Lawrence MarshallUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-49595854011792898462013-05-11T13:52:32.132-04:002013-05-11T13:52:32.132-04:00Agreed! Thank you as well!Agreed! Thank you as well!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-74795659632236705532013-05-11T12:18:03.020-04:002013-05-11T12:18:03.020-04:00Clark is a WDE and has similar measures coming out...Clark is a WDE and has similar measures coming out of high school, but he is actually listed 2 inches shorter than Marshall- so maybe Marshall could carry more weight. I don't know if that kind of weight gain is typical or unusual, but it seems impressive to me.<br /><br />I'm not one to care too much about positions, as I see them as being very fluid (it seems about half of kids end up moving at one time or another). Still, I'd be a little surprised if Marshall ended up anywhere other than WDE. I think the staff would prefer to have a 6'6 270 lb type at that spot. Probably depends more on who else forces their way onto the field as much as anything else.Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-88129392663783401222013-05-11T12:06:33.871-04:002013-05-11T12:06:33.871-04:00Interesting that you and Rivals are fairly meh on ...Interesting that you and Rivals are fairly meh on Marshall. I find the weaknesses listed in your write-up to be encouraging actually - all things that can be coached up. (Although I know you have doubts about coaching kids who don't hustle, I think generally if work ethic is a real problem those kids won't last 4 years and get replaced.)<br /><br />What I see is an athletic edge player with offers from Oklahoma, Tennesee, Ohio State, and Ol Miss. That doesn't necessarily say much about his ceiling, but if a Michigan kid is getting that kind of attention from all over the country, it tells me he's got some potential.<br /><br />Glad to have him - now if we can progress with Hand and Marshall - this could be one of the better DL classes in Michigan history. If they get either, the DL recruiting will be a success. If they get both, a coup.Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-68298092020118740912013-05-11T07:31:08.490-04:002013-05-11T07:31:08.490-04:00I think Da'Shawn Hand is a kid that coaches de...I think Da'Shawn Hand is a kid that coaches devise schemes around and will end up everywhere in an effort to undo or confuse double teams. Hand on the weakside would be an awesome thing. I also think that, going back to a prior conversation, Hand is one of those veery few kids that will most likely legitimately need to be going to the NFL before he uses up his eligibility.<br /><br />I do like Marshall though, probably a little better than you do. The only thing that really bothers me about him is the fast commitment and subsequent decommitment to the Buckeyes. Believe me when I tell you about knowing on the kids will be kids thing, but that kind of stuff always makes me wonder some. Fair or not, recruiting drama equals maturity issues in my mind.Roanmanhttp://justthinking.usnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-2420024732674625322013-05-10T17:39:28.283-04:002013-05-10T17:39:28.283-04:00Honestly, I think Hand could play on the weakside ...Honestly, I think Hand could play on the weakside if McDowell and whoever else could play strongside end and get the job done. We don't necessarily need a WDE in this class, IMO.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-8642309139149044852013-05-10T17:38:03.213-04:002013-05-10T17:38:03.213-04:00Clark has added about 60 pounds, and he was thinne...Clark has added about 60 pounds, and he was thinner than Marshall in high school. I think it all depends on nutrition and lifting. I don't think it would be that difficult if he WANTS to do it.<br /><br />I overestimated Roh's career. Below is a link to my 2009 recruiting awards, but I pegged Roh as the best defensive/overall recruit in Michigan's 2009 class. Obviously, Lewan and Denard Robinson were better offensively, and Toussaint/Gallon are on that next echelon. I was probably right as far as defense goes, but definitely not with the "Overall" category. I didn't do full commitment posts for guys at the time, so there's not a real in-depth breakdown of what I thought. I was pretty much in line with the recruiting sites, who thought he was a top-200-ish player.<br /><br />http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2009/02/2009-recruiting-awards.htmlThunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-69595050209514502972013-05-10T15:00:04.628-04:002013-05-10T15:00:04.628-04:00One thing you can say for Marshall is that when he...One thing you can say for Marshall is that when he is left unblocked he goes straight to the football and makes you pay. <br /><br />On one snap about four plays into this vid, he does a real nice job dropping his hips, setting up a nice wide base and puts a nice hit on a back trying to juke him off of the edge. <br /><br />Were our dreams to come true and we were to get both McDowell and Hand, I think he can play the weak side, he is fast. That combination with Mone could be real nasty.Roanmanhttp://justthinking.usnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-52690212433749338202013-05-10T09:36:56.566-04:002013-05-10T09:36:56.566-04:00I've never been too keen on handling Birds, so...I've never been too keen on handling Birds, so idk how to answer this. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-72922399291102751032013-05-10T09:03:23.505-04:002013-05-10T09:03:23.505-04:00Questions:
* Do you think it will be easy for Mar...Questions:<br /><br />* Do you think it will be easy for Marshall to add 50 pounds (what he'd need, presumably, to play SDE)?<br />* Looking back (to '09) on Roh, what were your expectations for his career when you looked at his HS film?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-57611431158072074382013-05-10T08:42:13.930-04:002013-05-10T08:42:13.930-04:00I am not sure if I want this guy to be one of 16 p...I am not sure if I want this guy to be one of 16 players in this class, but if the class ends up being around 20, I think we should take him and hope he develops into a contributor with 4 years under Mattison... unfortunately Roh changed positions a lot and only spent 2 years with the current coaching staff...crazyjoedavolanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-85202840042783571412013-05-10T08:34:26.000-04:002013-05-10T08:34:26.000-04:00Given the chance to pick, I think McDowell and Han...Given the chance to pick, I think McDowell and Hand would be no-brainer additions. That's not necessarily realistic, though. If Marshall wants to commit, you have to weigh the chances of those other guys committing down the road. Is a bird in the hand worth two in the bush?Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-5422407347340858342013-05-10T08:34:16.030-04:002013-05-10T08:34:16.030-04:00I was under the impression that Marshall was a WDE...I was under the impression that Marshall was a WDE pass rushing type considering the coaches pursuit of players like McDowell and Hand. WDE seems like a position the coaches have had a tough time getting top guys at, mostly taking project type players but haven't had much interest from the elite ones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-50626411068404912392013-05-10T08:32:50.416-04:002013-05-10T08:32:50.416-04:00Roh was always a pretty technically advanced playe...Roh was always a pretty technically advanced player, so it's not really a surprise that he held up to double teams. The issue with him early in his career (when he was 235-250 lbs.) was that he was too light. Once he hit that 280-ish pound range, he was fine.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-82324309795561822822013-05-10T08:32:36.458-04:002013-05-10T08:32:36.458-04:00Do you want him to commit to Michigan or would you...Do you want him to commit to Michigan or would you rather his scholarship be used on someone else? I know we're still in on McDowell and Hand, and we already have Mone, I can't see the staff taking 4 D-line commits. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-64018959543617641832013-05-10T08:31:00.255-04:002013-05-10T08:31:00.255-04:00Craig Roh's career was very strange. He came ...Craig Roh's career was very strange. He came in with such hype as a pass rusher, but never really developed into one. Then, he somehow became very good as a run-stopper and holding up to double teams, which was thought to be his biggest weakness coming in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-55471674168457721222013-05-10T08:20:12.975-04:002013-05-10T08:20:12.975-04:00Thanks!Thanks!Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-17187228621353911782013-05-10T07:21:48.820-04:002013-05-10T07:21:48.820-04:00I don't come to this site for the lofty praise...I don't come to this site for the lofty praise, I come here for the truth. Not what you want to hear about a player Michigan fans are so excited about, but it is what it is. Once again, well done Magnus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com