tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post4807430386564766272..comments2024-03-28T20:09:43.455-04:00Comments on Touch the Banner: 2015 Season Countdown: #45 Zach GentryUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-22802941515698152332015-08-10T18:35:05.388-04:002015-08-10T18:35:05.388-04:00Word outta camp is Gentry is getting reps @ TE, go...Word outta camp is Gentry is getting reps @ TE, good call ThunderAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09038898901499080536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-12094186751250946132015-07-20T01:44:58.192-04:002015-07-20T01:44:58.192-04:00If there were blogs back in the 90s they would hav...If there were blogs back in the 90s they would have said Tom Brady was going to transfer and needed to do so to make way for Henne, Jon Navarre was moving to TE, Chad Henne was doomed to ride the pine until he was a senior, Matt Guttierez was a superstar, etc. Ryan Mallet was anointed, Tate Forcier grabs his heismans, etc.<br /><br />I'm just saying - keep an open mind with QBs especially, and then add an EXTRA dose of that with a new staff.Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-45617459275497158642015-07-20T01:41:21.881-04:002015-07-20T01:41:21.881-04:00FWIW, I thought it was pretty clear in the origina...FWIW, I thought it was pretty clear in the original post, but clearly not for everyone...Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-19234165214496683452015-07-17T15:37:06.573-04:002015-07-17T15:37:06.573-04:00If there is a "dogfight" leading up to &...If there is a "dogfight" leading up to '16, Morris won't be part of it. He needs to solidify himself as the man in '15 camp, even if he does not beat out Rudock. Morris did not impress the staff in the spring and if that does not change asap for the junior, he is toast. Also don't see Speight being a factor for '16, unless he makes a big move fast.<br /><br />Regarding Malzone, there is a big difference between keeping a commit from the previous regime when you are struggling to fill a class, and targeting a kid hard like JH did with Gentry and Peters. But Malzone will get his shot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-75604465289898558992015-07-17T15:25:11.307-04:002015-07-17T15:25:11.307-04:00@ Anonymous 11:25 a.m.
We might win some games us...@ Anonymous 11:25 a.m.<br /><br />We might win some games using Gentry that we wouldn't otherwise. Jake Rudock is not a running quarterback, and while Morris is a decent runner, he's not ~235 lbs. with the ability to run through a linebacker or safety.<br /><br />@ Lanknows 2:56 p.m.<br /><br />I'm not necessarily 100% confident that I'm right. But I think some people are confusing what I'm saying, so the clarification might make it seem like I'm more confident than I am. I'm simply trying to get across that my ranking of him here implies that he is not just your average #3 quarterback (like, say, Russell Bellomy last year) but a situational quarterback (like Blake Bell, Tim Tebow as a freshman, etc.). It's a noteworthy difference.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-33697270411632553462015-07-17T15:20:09.066-04:002015-07-17T15:20:09.066-04:00It all depends on your definition of "a lot.&...It all depends on your definition of "a lot." Gardner did not cede much time to Shane Morris over the past couple years. Denard Robinson lost half a season to Gardner in 2012. The backups played pretty sparingly from 2009-2011.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-88055585387311817182015-07-17T14:56:28.772-04:002015-07-17T14:56:28.772-04:00@Thunder -- You seem uncharacteristically confiden...@Thunder -- You seem uncharacteristically confident about this scenario coming to fruition... I'm intrigued.Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-26872878915943247162015-07-17T14:55:31.326-04:002015-07-17T14:55:31.326-04:00The question is - does a freshman QB help you win ...The question is - does a freshman QB help you win now when you have Rudock and Morris? If not - you red-shirt the kid.<br /><br />For all we know the 2016 QB competiton will be OKorn and Morris and Peters...or maybe another 5th year transfer.<br /><br />I think the red-shirt should be Plan B - don't get me wrong. I'd LOVE it if Gentry was a 4 year starter from day 1. Given how raw he is reported to be, I just really doubt that's the reality. I think this is a season where you let Morris and Rudock try to be game managers. but we'll see.Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-30379847227460341322015-07-17T14:52:01.800-04:002015-07-17T14:52:01.800-04:00@Anon -- while if you made me guess at the situati...@Anon -- while if you made me guess at the situation i would probably agree with most of what you are saying but you don't have to have much of a memory to remember how wrong our QB preconceptions can be. <br /><br />I can't think of a single QB in recent history who the book written about them coming in ended up matching with the reality they experienced coming out.<br /><br />Tate Forcier and Denard Robinson were Heisman contenders for a bit. Devin Gardner looked like he might be better than both of them at times. Shane Morris was the golden child. etc.<br /><br />These narratives change so quickly that speculating on who will transfer seems pretty insane to me.Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-43456953594176252002015-07-17T14:47:48.328-04:002015-07-17T14:47:48.328-04:00I would say that ON AVERAGE the #2 QB heading into...I would say that ON AVERAGE the #2 QB heading into the season plays a lot. It's very context and injury dependent though. In our case, if you assume Rudock is the favorite to start there is a pretty decent chance that the presumed backup (Morris) either ends up outplaying him in practice (i.e., beats him out) OR that Rudock gets hurt.<br /><br />There's probably like an 70% chance that the #2 guy gets less than a dozen pass attempts in a meaningful situations. But the 30% chance means that the #2 guy will be needed in a major way.Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-27084820508676736772015-07-17T11:25:56.668-04:002015-07-17T11:25:56.668-04:00Well, at this point, nobody knows what he's go...Well, at this point, nobody knows what he's going to "be" for sure. And a nickel corner gets used many times in every game. Is our running game and OLine going to be so shaky that we need to use Gentry in short yardage situations that often? Are we actually going to win games by using him that we wouldn't if we didn't? Because that's the only justification I can see for burning his redshirt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-31284886153178449582015-07-17T10:29:08.942-04:002015-07-17T10:29:08.942-04:00In sum, the QB situation in 2016 is going to be a ...In sum, the QB situation in 2016 is going to be a dog fight. Morris, O'Korn, Gentry, Malzone, Speight, and two 2016 freshmen will battle it out. It's going to be brutal for the bench warmers.suduri xusaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13514381713516547280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-13808097057310415162015-07-17T07:31:45.971-04:002015-07-17T07:31:45.971-04:00That's the whole point of the post. If he'...That's the whole point of the post. If he's "just" a third-string QB who only plays if the first two guys get injured, then I agree he should redshirt...but he's not going to be, at least from what I gather. That would be like saying "If he's just our nickel corner, he should redshirt" or "If he's just our slot receiver, he should redshirt." He is a guy who will probably have certain packages in which he will be called upon to play, just like a nickel corner or a slot receiver. And considering that in his special packages, he'd be receiving the snap, then that's fairly important.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-22520838900497938672015-07-17T06:29:22.109-04:002015-07-17T06:29:22.109-04:00Agreed..barring injury, it won't much matter w...Agreed..barring injury, it won't much matter who our third string QB is. We probably won't have many games this year when we have the luxury of a big lead early enough to give our 2nd guy some snaps and then get to the third, and even if we did, at that point, he doesn't have to be very good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-75443926250226346072015-07-16T21:54:59.791-04:002015-07-16T21:54:59.791-04:00He is your Tebow guy where he goes in on 2nd and 3...He is your Tebow guy where he goes in on 2nd and 3 from the 3 yard line. <br /><br />He makes the other team worry about the run. He is also an option for 3rd and goal with 6 inches to go. Long limbs and all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-1054898785371352122015-07-16T21:53:19.129-04:002015-07-16T21:53:19.129-04:00You can worry about rs down the line when you have...You can worry about rs down the line when you have heaps of talent at the position. At this point I dont see heaps of talent. A lot of meh players and 1 guy who cant play this year and 1 guy who has 1 yr of eligibililty. It would be different in 3 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-53075438700477423752015-07-16T21:51:50.932-04:002015-07-16T21:51:50.932-04:002016 depth chart
1. O'Korn or Gentry
2. Gent...2016 depth chart<br />1. O'Korn or Gentry<br />2. Gentry or O'Korn<br />3. Whomever is left<br /><br />Speight is gone. Morris might stick it out - he is not a rs so he cant immediately play. If you have no NFL talent do you leave UM to sit 1 whole year just to play 1 yr? Tougher call than a guy like Blake who can play immediately. I dont know. But he is not an obvious transfer even if he doesnt play 1 down this year.<br /><br />Malzone looks like a transfer too unless Gentry ends up a TE or something (always possible). <br /><br />I would not be surprised for Morris to be #3 in 16 and Peters #4 with 2 transfers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-75010701778466092282015-07-16T20:38:18.396-04:002015-07-16T20:38:18.396-04:00Yeah, I don't think Harbaugh is going to worry...Yeah, I don't think Harbaugh is going to worry about redshirting. He wants/needs to win now. Plus I believe Landry Jones was entrenched as the QB when Blake Bell was starting out at Oklahoma, so there wasn't really a need to burn Bell's redshirt. Michigan is going to have to be creative to move the ball and score points, but Oklahoma had talent.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-14121954684374492072015-07-16T20:37:05.656-04:002015-07-16T20:37:05.656-04:00How can he have 6 TD's when he never sees the ...How can he have 6 TD's when he never sees the field!? If he was an early enroll player i might see it differently. Also, didn't New Mexico just add football to their High schools a year or so ago?! <br />Yes I said itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-24808071008170692752015-07-16T20:33:31.692-04:002015-07-16T20:33:31.692-04:00Well, if he plays as much as I project, that's...Well, if he plays as much as I project, that's pretty much a #2 quarterback's work load. Some #2 quarterbacks barely play. I don't expect Michigan to blow out many teams this year, so it's not like the #2 guy is going to see much playing time unless there's an injury.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-61519645856169144342015-07-16T20:30:23.135-04:002015-07-16T20:30:23.135-04:00was or still is? did he shrink?was or still is? did he shrink?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-92114081074668625852015-07-16T17:06:48.939-04:002015-07-16T17:06:48.939-04:00Remember what people thought of the QB depth chart...Remember what people thought of the QB depth chart a year ago? <br /><br />I expect Rudock to win the job, like most others, but lets not forge Morris' signature on transfer papers just yet.<br /><br />JH was under next to no obligation to keep Malzone.Lanknowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-5834871750672840632015-07-16T17:05:41.598-04:002015-07-16T17:05:41.598-04:00Redshirting is not going to be a priority at the Q...Redshirting is not going to be a priority at the QB position, especially this year. Returnees do not appear to be particularly good, and they have a one year rental on the likely starter. Gentry is Harbaugh's hand-picked guy, and he needs to be fast tracked in order to prepare for the 2016 competition (at minimum). Back-up or short-yardage snaps are valuable for development, and should not be wasted on guys that Harbaugh does not think are very good. If we learned anything from how Harbaugh handled Kapernik, it is that he is willing to take a risk on talent over seniority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-88585489119783096632015-07-16T15:22:41.746-04:002015-07-16T15:22:41.746-04:00Ryan Mallet was 6'7"Ryan Mallet was 6'7"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-70209849224222821402015-07-16T15:22:29.067-04:002015-07-16T15:22:29.067-04:00A lot of basketball players aren't fast and at...A lot of basketball players aren't fast and athletic in the sense of football. They aren't as strong/fast to run the ball. This is especially true if they are 6'7 or taller.suduri xusaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13514381713516547280noreply@blogger.com