tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post877167989741438430..comments2024-03-28T20:09:43.455-04:00Comments on Touch the Banner: Getting to Know -- Matt GodinUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-79554390656835834642011-06-22T17:06:25.565-04:002011-06-22T17:06:25.565-04:00I can't wait for a team to finally break out t...I can't wait for a team to finally break out the Midget rush attack and have 2'6" RBs run through legs the Defensive line in 3rd down situations. Since DT depth is such a hot topic, what would you project our line to look like if Godin and Pipkins made it in? Do you expect Godin to grow out of his spot down the road with all the other DEs we're taking?Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16110824687189541761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-35351081865989511662011-06-22T11:39:43.012-04:002011-06-22T11:39:43.012-04:006'7" is basically the prototype for a LT....6'7" is basically the prototype for a LT. The only "great" OT I can think of off the top of my head that was over 6'7" was John Ogden at 6'9". <br /><br />Jake Long, Joe Thomas, Tony Boselli, Michael Roos and Orlando Pace all are/were 6'7". Anthony Munoz, probably the best LT of all time was 6'6".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-50305725215390349872011-06-22T11:37:30.667-04:002011-06-22T11:37:30.667-04:00@ Lankownia 11:19 a.m.
When a DT gets 6'6&quo...@ Lankownia 11:19 a.m.<br /><br />When a DT gets 6'6" or above, I think that starts to push the limits. Obviously, a beast of a guy could be 6'6" and still be effective as a DT. But most guys who are 6'6" or 6'7" either become offensive tackles or defensive ends. From what I've seen, I think Godin is closer to 6'5" than 6'6". If he gets taller, though, I'd guess he would be more and more limited to DE.<br /><br />No matter how short you are, you're going to get knocked backward if you stand straight up. So whether Will Campbell is 6'5" or 6'1", bad technique is bad technique. You see short defensive ends like Brandon Graham and Dwight Freeney staying low and bending at the knees, and that's one reason why they're good at what they do.<br /><br />I think the OL thing might be cyclical. Defensive linemen were getting big, so offensive linemen got bigger to keep them at bay. Now more and more NFL teams are going to the 3-4 and using smaller, quicker rushers . . . so you might see NFL teams valuing 6'4" or 6'5" guys a little more, players who are a little more agile.<br /><br />I don't know what direction the NFL is going because I don't follow it as religiously, but that would be a logical evolution, I guess.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-80968474466715002532011-06-22T11:19:10.191-04:002011-06-22T11:19:10.191-04:00Thanks for clarifying.
Obviously it can vary base...Thanks for clarifying.<br /><br />Obviously it can vary based on the individual, but how tall is too tall in your opinion for DT? Pat Massey was 6'7 275-290 lb as a Senior and was routinely criticized my M fans for getting pushed back as a DT. Godin is listed as 6'6 on Rivals and will presumably add weight to his listed 270 lb. Not saying they're the same guy (and anyway, Massey wasn't a bad player) but it makes you wonder.<br /><br />I know its a different position, but I've read that many in the NFL now consider OTs over 6'7 to be 'too tall'. The whole 'low-man-wins' thing...it seems like 6'5 is too tall for an interior DT spot unless you weigh like 320+. Just saying that based on NFL player sizes. College obviously can differentiate further from the prototype, but even Will Campbell (6'5 330) is struggling to maintain leverage, though his issues may not be physical.Lankowniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07421144704503213226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-54171482453069905942011-06-22T09:56:29.428-04:002011-06-22T09:56:29.428-04:00@ Lankownia 9:50 a.m.
The 5-tech DE/DT is the str...@ Lankownia 9:50 a.m.<br /><br />The 5-tech DE/DT is the strongside end. It's what Brandon Graham played in 2009 and what Van Bergen will play this season.<br /><br />The 3-tech is on the opposite side from the 5-tech.<br /><br />Godin is more likely to succeed at the 5-tech, but he could be a 3-tech as well. I prefer to keep the taller guys on the outside so the OT's reach advantage isn't quite so great, but 6'5" isn't too awfully tall to play DT.<br /><br />FWIW, I'm working up a post for Maize 'n' Brew about the different techniques. Perhaps that will clarify.Thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708792562446136381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2440694009017367434.post-11769320460856099502011-06-22T09:50:57.694-04:002011-06-22T09:50:57.694-04:00Just to clarify, the 5-tech is the SDE or SDT or w...Just to clarify, the 5-tech is the SDE or SDT or whatever you want to call it. The outside DL that is beside the 3-tech DT. Correct?<br /><br />Is that the position where a tall guy like Matt is most likely to succeed?Lankowniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07421144704503213226noreply@blogger.com