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Monday, December 6, 2021

2021 Ex-Wolverine Updates: Championship Week

 

Brady Hoke (image via USA Today)

FORMER PLAYERS

LB Jordan Anthony (Troy): Troy went 5-7 this season. He finishes the season with 35 tackles and 0.5 tackles for loss.

RB Zach Charbonnet (UCLA): Charbonnet has 203 carries for 1,137 yards (5.6 yards/carry) and 13 touchdowns this season. He also caught 24 passes for 197 yards.

WR Kekoa Crawford (Cal): Cal went 5-7 this season. Crawford finishes the season with 36 catches for 491 yards (13.6 yards/catch) and 0 touchdowns. He also returned 2 punts for 18 yards and completed 1/1 passes for 34 yards.

Hit the jump for more.


P Will Hart (San Jose State): SJSU went 5-7 this season. Hart finishes the season with 67 punts for 2,976 yards (44.4 yards/punt)

QB Ren Hefley (Presbyterian): Presbyterian went 2-9 this season. Altogether, Hefley completed 351/563 passes (62.3%) for 3,934 yards and 39 touchdowns and 32 interceptions. He also ran 97 times for 27 yards and 2 touchdowns.

WR Giles Jackson (Washington): Washington went 4-8 this season. Jackson had 8 catches for 87 yards, ran 8 times for 45 yards, returned 19 kickoffs for 442 yards (23.3 yards/return), and returned 12 punts for 81 yards (6.8 yards/return). His only score of the year came on a 2-point conversion against Stanford.

S Jaylen Kelly-Powell (Akron): Kelly-Powell finishes the 2-10 season with 73 tackles, 1.5 tackles for loss, 1 sack, 1 interception, and 1 pass breakup.

DE Aaron Lewis (Rutgers): Lewis finishes the 5-7 season with 29 tackles, 2.5 tackles for loss, 2.5 sacks, 1 forced fumble, and 3 quarterback hurries.

WR Oliver Martin (Nebraska): Finishing with a 3-9 record, Martin had 10 catches for 170 yards and 1 touchdown, 1 rush for 0 yards, and 3 punt returns for 19 yards.

QB Dylan McCaffrey (Northern Colorado): Overall, McCaffrey completed 160/265 passes (60.4%) for 1,332 yards, 5 touchdowns, and 7 interceptions. He also ran 58 times for 227 yards and 4 touchdowns.

QB Joe Milton (Tennessee): Milton has completed 32/62 passes (51.6%) for 375 yards, 2 touchdowns, and 0 interceptions. He also ran 28 times for 129 yards and 2 touchdowns.

LB William Mohan (Tennessee): Mohan has made 9 tackles this season.

DT Phillip Paea (Utah State): Paea made 1 tackle in a 46-13 win over San Diego State.

QB Brandon Peters (Illinois): This season Peters completed 91/169 passes (53.8%) for 1,170 yards, 7 touchdowns, and 4 interceptions; he also ran 38 times for a total of 0 yards (0.0 yards/carry).

S Hunter Reynolds (Utah State): Reynolds made 10 tackles, 0.5 tackles for loss, and 1 pass breakup in a 46-13 win over San Diego State.

RB O'Maury Samuels (New Mexico State): During the 2-10 season, Samuels carried the ball 65 times for 202 yards (3.1 yards/carry) and 1 touchdown. He also caught 12 passes for 72 yards.

CB Myles Sims (Georgia Tech): Georgia Tech went 3-9, and Sims made 25 tackles, 1 tackle for loss, and 3 pass breakups.

LB Drew Singleton (Rutgers): Singleton finished the 5-7 season with 54 tackles, 3 tackles for loss, and 1 quarterback hurry.

DT Aubrey Solomon (Tennessee): Solomon has made 8 tackles and 0.5 tackles for loss this season.

RB Christian Turner (Wake Forest): Turner ran 6 times for 34 yards in a 45-21 loss to Pitt in the ACC Championship Game.

LB Ben VanSumeren (Michigan State): VanSumeren has made 12 tackles and 1 tackle for loss this season.

DE Luiji Vilain (Wake Forest): Vilain made 3 tackles, 2 tackles for loss, 2 sacks, and 1 forced fumble in a 45-21 loss to Pitt.

RB Kareem Walker (South Alabama): This season Walker ran 86 times for 295 yards (3.4 yards/carry) and 4 touchdowns. He also caught 12 passes for 43 yards and 1 score.

LB Cornell Wheeler (Kansas): He made 1 tackle this season.

RB Tru Wilson (Northern Colorado): Wilson ran 56 times for 228 yards (4.1 yards/carry) and caught 23 passes for 121 yards this season.

S J'Marick Woods (Duke): Woods finished the season with 27 tackles, 2 tackles for loss, 3 pass breakups, and 2 quarterback hurries.

FORMER COMMITS

RB Tim Baldwin, Jr. (Indiana): Baldwin has entered the transfer portal. He had 28 carries for 103 yards (3.6 yards/carry) this season.

CB Te'Cory Couch (Miami): Couch has 33 tackles, 1.5 tackles for loss, and 5 pass breakups this season.

C Emil Ekiyor, Jr. (Alabama): Ekiyor is Alabama's starting center.

RB Eric Gray (Oklahoma): Gray has 70 carries for 330 yards (4.7 yards/carry) and 2 touchdowns this year, along with 18 catches for 204 yards and 1 touchdown.

OLB Stephen Herron, Jr. (Stanford): During Stanford's 3-9 season, Herron made 18 tackles and 3 sacks.

C Jalil Irvin (Auburn): Irvin is a backup lineman for Auburn.

LB Branden Jennings (Maryland): Jennings made 23 tackles, 1 tackle for loss, and 1 forced fumble before entering the transfer portal.

RB Amauri Pesek-Hickson (Kansas): Pesek-Hickxon finished the season with 60 carries for 218 yards (3.6 yards/carry) and 5 catches for 34 yards.

S Otis Reese (Ole Miss): Ole Miss is 10-2 and Reese has been one of their best defensive players, making 86 tackles, 2 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, 1 forced fumble, and 2 pass breakups.

S Antwaine Richardson (Kent State): Richardson finished the season with 3 tackles and 0.5 tackles for loss.

DE Quintin Somerville (UCLA): Somerville redshirted for UCLA this season.

OT Erik Swenson (Oklahoma): Swenson is Oklahoma's starting left tackle.

TE Leonard Taylor (Cincinnati): There's a chance that Michigan could end up facing Taylor, who was committed to Michigan to play defensive tackle at one point. Taylor made 1 catch for an 8-yard touchdown in last weekend's 35-20 win over Houston. He has 27 catches for 274 yards and 4 touchdowns this season.

WR Xavier Worthy (Texas): Texas went 4-8 and won't play in a bowl, but Worthy had an outstanding freshman year and led the Longhorns with 62 catches for 981 yards (15.8 yards/catch) and 12 touchdowns.

FORMER COACHES

Don Brown (Head Coach, UMass): UMass hired Brown to be its new head coach.

D.J. Durkin (Defensive Coordinator, Ole Miss): Ole Miss is #102 in total defense and #54 in scoring defense. They are 10-2 this season.

Jedd Fisch (Head Coach, Arizona): Arizona went 1-11 in Fisch's inaugural year.

Brady Hoke (Head Coach, San Diego State): SDSU lost in the Mountain West Championship Game by a score of 46-13 to Utah State. Hoke was named Coach of the Year in the Mountain West.

Scot Loeffler (Head Coach, Bowling Green State): BGSU went 4-8 this season.

Rich Rodriguez (Head Coach, Jacksonville State): Rodriguez went 4-8 as Louisiana-Monroe's offensive coordinator, but he has since been named the new head coach at Jacksonville State.

Nick Sheridan (Offensive Coordinator, Indiana): Sheridan was fired as Indiana's offensive coordinator after a dismal 2-10 season. 

41 comments:

  1. Thanks for compiling this information week after week. It's not a trivial task, and I enjoy it quite a bit.

    For the most part, the results confirm that the transfers were no worse than a net-neutral for Michigan. Zach Charbonnet is the possible exception, though given Michigan's season, and given the results of the Haskins/Corum combination, I'm not sure where/how Charbonnet would have fit.

    Good for Brady Hoke: he seems to have found his level.

    Good for Rich Rodriguez for finding a HC job. Let's see if he can keep it.

    Don Brown taking the HC at UMass is interesting. Brown is 66 years old, reportedly not in the best of health, and does not like extended recruiting time. While UMass is certainly not Michigan, nor Arizona, it's still a D1 school. If he's still in coaching "for the love of the game," I would have thought he'd find a DII or DIII school in the northeast to finish out his career.

    Jedd Fisch went 1-11, but the consensus seems to be that Sumlin left the cupboards very bare. That means Fisch had better crank up the recruiting engine. Perhaps Brown's departure was in part an understanding between Brown and Fisch about the need to have all coaches focus on recruiting.

    Oliver Martin was supposed to be a route-running wizard, but his career is winding down and nothing like that materialized.

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    1. I would think Fisch would have known enough about Brown to know that recruiting heavily might not be his thing. If he wanted a DC who would also be heavily involved in recruiting, I just don't see why he would have hired Brown in the first place.

      I'm a little surprised Martin didn't turn out better. Something weird went on there. He played fairly early at Michigan and got chances at three Big Ten schools, but it never worked out. He was also Nebraska's punt returner, and I don't understand how a guy who's your punt returner isn't good enough to warrant getting the ball in other ways (rushing, receiving, etc.).

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    2. Maybe Fisch didn't realize just how bare the cupboards were. Or maybe Fisch and Brown knew going in that Brown's tenure was a one-year thing. Brown has a bit of a reputation for making a good defense out of less-than-great piece parts (see: Boston College), so maybe (???) it was the plan all along to have Brown come in for one year, do a patch-up job best he could, and maybe get a few wins while Fisch worked on the offense.

      The desert southwest is about as far removed from the northeast as one can get, both in miles and in climate / culture / atmosphere. I was somewhat surprised a life-long northeastern guy would take an Arizona job. When it was announced, I was puzzled. Another point of speculation: perhaps Harbaugh arranged with Fisch the hiring of Brown as part of Harbaugh's getting rid of Brown. It provided Brown a year in coaching so he could then transition back to the northeast for his finale.

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  2. I'll second the praise above. This is a tall task with all the player movement in CFB, and it's always interesting stuff.

    Also agree on the Charbonnet. His transfer was a win/win in the end.

    I don't see anyone on the former player list that we really missed in 2021. Jackson might have helped on punt returns perhaps.

    To Martin's credit he played (and scored touchdowns even) for 3 major programs. Not many people get to do that. I can imagine his "two truths and lie" game being very strong later in life.

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  3. Xavier Worthy and Giles Jackson combined for less wins than UM. Hope whatever was so alluring about UT was worth it for Xavier because they likely aren’t much better next year. Jackson just doesn’t really seem like a WR looks like he has never run a route.

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    1. Jackson isn't a good WR. But he is good runner with the ball in his hands. WR skills can be developed but his growth was perhaps stunted there by having played lots of RB in high school. He was listed as an All Purpose Back by most of the recruiting services, and Michigan used him there at towards the end of his freshman year in an effort to put the ball in his hands.

      Playing RB probably didn't help him, nor has bouncing around schools. Michigan tried to make the most of his skillset how they could. Washington is still trying.

      Jackson is similar to Henning except probably more athletic and less skilled. I would not be surprised if GJ is drafted someday for kick return skills and athletic potential, but it seems he has a long way to go as a receiver even at the college level.

      Worthy, like most of us, didn't see what was coming. But Austin is great and he had an excellent freshman year. Jury is out on Sarkisian as a head coach but wouldn't be a shock to see a bounce-back year in 2022 and Worthy playing a big role in that.

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    2. So you can admit Jackson isn't good at Receiver, but refuse to acknowledge Joe Milton isn't a good QB?

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    3. @JE

      Oh hey. You want to talk to Lank about Joe Milton again? LOL.

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    4. Not really. If you can't discern from film (Lank cannot), just look at his stats. The folks in Knoxville demand another portal QB, and many hope Milton moves to TE

      That topic was over back in 2020

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    5. Yet here you are. Every week posting about Joe Milton.

      Since you brought it up, again. I'll reiterate my pre-season assertion: Harbaugh recruits at Michigan keep getting better and there's a good chance JJ keeps up the trend.

      McNamara > Milton > McCaffrey > Peters > Malzone

      However, now that McCaffrey and Peters careers are over I probably have to admit that a tweak is needed.

      McNamara > Milton > Peters > McCaffrey > Malzone

      Peters didn't do anything exceptional and had 6 years to do it, but McCaffrey did even less.

      Not quite as clean as I asserted, but the trend is still up.

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    6. Brandon Peters in 6 years: 32 touchdowns, 15 interceptions
      Joe Milton in 4 years: 7 touchdowns, 6 interceptions

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    7. Acknowledged that Milton isn't ahead of Peters at this point. He he has 2 more years. Possible he peaked in Year 3 and that is that. Peters production peaked in Year 4. It happens. But not typical.

      Peters career: 4,500 yards, 36 TDs, 54% CP, 6.6 YPA, 121 RTG
      Milton career: 1,900 yards, 12 TDs, 55% CP, 7.3 YPA, 122 RTG

      So the task at hand, for Milton to pass Peters statistically, is not a very tall order. Maintain his unexceptional passing efficiency while making up 2,600 yards and 24 TDs over 2 years. If that's the over/under I would guess over.

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    8. @Thunder. If your intended point is that Peters is superior. I would offer this:

      Brandon Peters in 6 years: 32 touchdowns, 15 interceptions
      Cade McNamara in 3 years: 20 touchdowns, 4 interceptions



      McNamara is a better QB even if he hasn't had as much total production.

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    9. My point is that 7 touchdowns and 6 interceptions for Milton in four years is not anywhere close to 32 touchdowns and 15 interceptions for Peters. The TD to INT ratio difference is significant.

      McNamara is clearly a better player than Milton and Peters, so that's not even a question.

      I'm not sure where Milton is going to make up ground with all those touchdowns and interceptions. It doesn't appear Tennessee is very fond of him at this point. He might have to go to school #3 to make something happen.

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    10. Gotcha. It's true that the TD to INT ratio is substantially different. Most of the other stats are not. They're similarly uninspiring.

      Peters got most of his stats in his last 3 years. I would be surprised if Milton doesn't do the same, even after seeing 2021.

      You might be right about school number 3 but regardless Milton has two years to produce and typically that's the two most productive years for the VAST majority of QBs.

      So again, I would take the over on 2600 yards and 20 TDs. Sounds like you'd take the under. We'll see.

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    11. The only way I see Milton getting there is if he transfers to a MAC or FCS school and just physically dominates the competition. He's not good enough at Michigan or Tennessee to do that.

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    12. Milton produced nearly 2000 yards the last 2 years at Michigan and Tennessee so unless he gets worse he is certainly capable of doing that again.

      Transferring to a lower level isn't necessarily a great solution (as we saw with McCaffrey and Wilson) and frankly most of the guys that end up in the MAC. It can help you get playing time but dominate? Doubtful. Haven't seen it happen.

      I'd say that if Milton is good enough to start at Michigan and Tennessee he can probably start at places like Arizona, Syracuse, or Indiana. But before we start speculating on transfer destinations, there's the issue of who will play for Tennessee in 2022. As of now it's Milton and a freshman. We'll see.

      As for the comment about physical dominance -- that's not where I see Milton needing to improve his circumstances. Arm strength doesn't matter if you cant throw it to right place at the right time. Like most QBs, you get better with age, maturity, experience. Decision-making improves. Milton may not have what it takes but again, 2 years to go. Joe Burrow didn't look like he had what it took with 2 years to go either. A LOT can change in 2 years. Milton might be getting drafted to the NFL at that point. He's one good year away from being tantalizing.

      Would I bet on it? HELL NO. Would I have bet on Michigan making the playoff a year ago? HELL NO. Would I bet on Milton getting 2000+ more yards in his college career? Yes.

      I kind of doubt he's just going to sit happily on the bench for the rest of his career given he left Michigan. Even if he sits on the bench at Tenn in 2022 and only adds a few hundred yards as a backup, he'd probably find a way to start his last year somewhere and then you don't even have to be very good to put up 200 yards a game or whatever.

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    13. Milton wasn't good enough to start at Michigan or Tennessee. He *did* start, but he wasn't good enough, and it became abundantly clear very quickly.

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    14. Peter principle is a real thing. But so is development and experience.

      Joe Burrow literally wasn't good enough to start at OSU, because he didn't. 2 years later things looked very different.

      The list of college QBs who made an exponential leap in their production in the last year or two is very very long. Milton very well may not join that list. The list of guys who just don't have IT is even longer.

      I'm just surprised at the confidence and assurance of those who KNOW IT and state it as fact is surprising to me. Especially the ones with a track record of being wrong.

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    15. Comparing Milton to Joe Burrow is reeeaching

      Burrow was burried behind QBs leading conference winning teams. Joe was gifted an opportunity by coaching staffs lacking talent & depth, and blew both opportunities

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    16. Hooker could still return to Tennessee in 2022, and some think he should. He still has one year of eligibility remaining, thanks to COVID.

      https://atozsports.com/nashville/tennessee-vols-hendon-hooker-nfl-draft-decision-football/

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    17. @JE

      Oh you don't like comparing two different players? Then maybe don't turn around and immediately do it.

      Looks like you still need to look up what comparison mean. Hit up hypocrite after that.

      Let me compare poop and candy. One is stinky one is sweet. Comparison completed successfully.

      Milton was beaten out by McNamara and Hooker. Good QBs. The end.

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    18. @Thunder

      Like I said back in summer of 2019 a grad transfer wouldn't surprise me for Milton. 2 is pretty unusual but in the modern era, with early enrollment, early graduation, extra COVID years, and NIL considerations it wouldn't be a surprise.

      We'll see what happens at Tennessee first. If Hooker returns you'd assume he's starting again.

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    19. Comparing players is fine, but must be done with a sense of reality. Burrows is statistically one of the greatest college QBs of the modern era, and won a National Championship. Milton is ... not that

      If the Vols QB depth weren't so shallow, a desparation move might be tried, because Milton has proven repeatedly to not just be bad, but painful to watch


      https://atozsports.com/nashville/how-joe-milton-could-play-an-important-role-in-tennessee-vols-offense-in-2022/

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    20. @ Lank 8:57 p.m.

      Hendon Hooker just announced today that he's coming back in 2022. So Milton is either going to be a backup again or is going to have to transfer (barring an injury).

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    21. Interesting.

      I did not expect Milton to beat out Hooker in 2021 and I do not expect that would be any different in 2022.

      We'll see what happens. Milton has been patient before behind Patterson and McCaffrey for 2 years but he's in a different situation now as a grad, you'd think. There are all kinds of QBs in the portal and fall is a long way off.

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    22. @JE

      Joe Burrow is 6'4. Joe Milton is 6'4.

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    23. LMAO, that's all you got ... this is how just about all your posts should read: a concession to reality

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    24. @ Lank 7:19 p.m.

      Milton is listed on Tennessee's website at 6'5".

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  4. Playing into the guess above is that I would think Milton might pursue graduate studies elsewhere if playing time proves as elusive as it did in 2021. Portal/NFL decisions will start shaking out in the coming months. Hooker's NFL decision being the first and biggest.

    Milton and Peters have some significant similarities but also notable differences. Milton won the starting job at Michigan. Peters got his by default through injury, Milton through competition, but ultimately both were similar age and similarly inept as starters at Michigan. They got passed over at Michigan, transferred, got a starting job elsewhere... and then lost it. Injuries were a factor in all this but the end result was what it was. Peters had a full season starting at Illinois. Milton got a few games Tennessee, a much stronger program. We'll see.

    Also worth considering who these guys sat behind or lost jobs to.

    Milton's superiors: Patterson, McNamara, and Hooker.
    Peters' superiors: Patterson, McCaffrey, and Sitkowski.

    I can point you to stats but you already know that Milton's competition was far stiffer. I can also point out that Milton beat out Peters at Michigan but that continues to fall on deaf ears.

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  5. It's not just the stats. Though, statistically, Milton is a very bad QB. Watch the dang film. While all incompletions & turnovers are equal on a stat sheet, underthrowing/overthrowing while the target has a chance is one thing (as Cade did in the B1G Championship), Milton puts it 5-15yds out of reach. Cade threw a bad pick against ohio, while trying to make a play. Maddening, but nowhere near Milton putting right into a defender's chest, with no Receiver nearby. No QB has more fumbles than Joe this year, despite getting benched after week2. When you watch, he's in a clean pocket, but indecision and lack of pocket awareness gets him sacked, while poor ball protection coughs it up

    Context matters, and if you watch the film, it's obvious why he should have went FCS long ago

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    1. Stats and film go hand in hand. Receiving skills and running skills go hand and hand. You can eat vegetables and meat. It's even good for you.

      A yard is a yard. An incompletion is an incompletion. An INT is an INT. A TD is a TD.

      The nice thing about stats, the complementary thing about stats, is that they are objective. Incomplete and limited. The nice thing about watching is that it is subjective. Incomplete and limited too. There's (different) bias inherent in each but nothing like the obsessive bias shown in your Milton takes.

      If someone was ranting and raving every week about how awful Brandon Peters was and how he belongs in the FCS you can be pretty sure I'd be skeptical of their takes and check the stats to see if it holds up. Nope. Peters wasn't very good by Michigan football standards but he started games in the Big Ten in 4 different seasons.

      But back to bias. It's interesting that speculation about transferring for Milton has come since he was a freshman. Three seasons and 2 starting jobs later, still the same song.

      Meanwhile, the guy who actually DID transfer to the FCS to get playing time. Mums the word. The Broyles winning assistant chose to start Milton over him, but every week it's how bad Milton is.

      Some personal bias it seems.

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    2. "An incompletion is an incompletion. An INT is an INT."

      That's just simply not true at all. An incompletion due to great coverage by a defensive back will be viewed differently by coaches than an incompletion where the QB overthrew a wide open WR by 15 yards. An interception on a tipped ball will be viewed differently by coaches than an interception thrown into the chest of a surprised linebacker where the WR was nowhere near the play. Coaches will sit the guy who is erratic because that kind of wild inconsistency will lose games that can be won, all other stats being equal.

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    3. It seems evident that Joe Milton is a young man with a great build, a rocket arm, but lacking the ability, at present, to accurately process live game action. He must light it up in practice, which would explain why Gattis and the Heupel chose to start him, only to find out that practice does not translate to live action.

      He's the not the first quarterback to be that way, and Gattis and Heupel are not the first coaches to realize their mistake after some live game action.

      Joe Milton is likely a fine young man; he's just not a very good quarterback.

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    4. "speculating about transfer ... "

      Funny that in your defense of Milton, you speculate that he could pass a bad QBPeters stats in the next couple years, at another school

      Too easy

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    5. Why is that funny? I speculated on potential post-grad transfer 2 and half years ago. He already beat out Peters once. He has 2 years left.

      The stuff I said then holds up, unlike your comments. The part I was most wrong about is thinking McCaffrey is good or could go pro early. Turns out he would never start a game for Michigan and transfer to FCS.

      LanknowsJUL 09, 2019 AT 1:51 PM
      He beat out Brandon Peters. If anyone still thinks there’s a pretty good QB hiding in Peters (as apparently the Illinois coaches do) that’s incredibly impressive for a freshman to do. For the coaches to put Milton out there in meaningful situations also says something, given the 3 other QBs on the roster. Realistically, it could not have gone much better for Milton as a freshman, given how good Patterson is and McCaffrey looks to be.

      I’m a little surprised at the bordering on enthusiastic speculation of a transfer. Early signs for Milton point to a very bright future. Maybe he goes the grad school transfer route after year 4. Maybe he sees the Gattis offense and is willing to wait for his shot. Maybe McCaffrey goes pro after 2020 and Milton after 2021. An injury can happen at anytime.

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    6. @Anon

      I mean in terms of results being what matter, but yes I agree if you're a coach evaluating a player then how things happen is important.

      INTs especially are somewhat random. McNamara has gotten away with a quite a few marginal throws this year, but as Thunder pointed out every QB gets away with some.

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    7. The board discussion was on the likelihood of a QB transferring after Shea graduated. The discussion went into if a QB transferred , who it might be. This upset you, or not. Maybe you just like to argue

      Anyway, Shea graduated, and 4 games into the following season, Milton was benched, bound to transfer

      No need to distort the truth; just own it


      *INTs are random, but when you chuck it into an unsuspecting defender's chest, you head for the pine. Milton lasted 4 games in Ann Arbor with a small & unimpressive QB behind him, and them two games in Knoxville

      Both times the offense showed immediate improvement

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    8. @JE.

      No maybe about me liking to argue. You keep saying that like I'm supposed to feel bad about it. I don't.

      It's like you going on a messageboard to troll or slam an 18 year old's character FOR NO REASON AT ALL. Except that I have no problem admitting it.

      But that's definitely NOT what the discussion was about and that's a flat out lie. You said Milton was impatient and "you could see" him transferring if Shea stayed healthy. You call out Milton - specifically. Not the first time not the last.

      You were wrong. Always wrong. It was McCaffrey who transferred to FCS. It was Milton who won the starting job and Milton who hung around for 2 seasons after this post and graduated from Michigan.

      This isn't the first you've conveniently forgotten what you wrote and then lied about it. Caught you in MULTIPLE lies on that thread as well. Receipts.

      You assumed he wouldn't wait behind McCaffrey and therefore would transfer. You could just admit since, ya know, it's in the archive and you're not fooling anyone, but nope. JE gonna JE.

      I thought McCaffrey was going to be the man too. NBD we're all projecting players and none of us are college coaches. But you can't do it because you feel like is something that is your right to trash a teenager on the internet and you don't want to get called out for it. Tough luck.

      My point then was that it's silly to be presumptuous about what the future holds and project any individual - especially a freshman - as being transfer bound until, at the very least, they are passed over by younger guys. That's how most playing time transfers work, Rattler being a recent high profile example.

      You got this wrong. Own it. You won't because you're not built that way. You'll just keep lying, contorting, twisting, trying to save face, fooling no one.

      Troll on.

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    9. @JE

      Milton lasted 3 seasons in Ann Arbor and graduated from Michigan. He's proud of that, justifiably. He's a bigger part of the Michigan program than you can dream of and I suspect that makes you pretty frustrated.

      He got beat out by McNamara which seemed like a pretty huge statement against him a year ago but now seems pretty much fine. There's QBs moving all over college football now because they can't win a starting job where they are and some of them, like Jalen Hurts, are going to end up in the NFL.

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    10. Making stuff up again. Evident in your posting 4min apart - not even you believe your BS

      For example, Milton entered the portal about a month after McCaffrey


      Too easy

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