With the house settlement expected in April of this year, FBS rosters are going to change. Instead of the old 85-scholarship limit with unlimited walk-ons available, it is expected that teams will be allowed to have 105 total players on a roster. All of those players would be able to receive scholarships, but there would no longer be walk-ons beyond the 105 limit. Michigan had 136 players on its roster in 2024, so that means there are 31 fewer students at the University of Michigan who will be able to run out of the tunnel on home game Saturdays.
Even though I think that's a little bit sad for the state of college football, those are the times we're living in. So I'm going to adjust the "scholarship count" posts - which used to differentiate between scholarship players and walk-ons - and just keep track of players with spots on the roster.
TOTAL ROSTER PLAYERS FOR 2025 = 121
Michigan needs to lose 16 players from this list prior to the season. I've checked social media and transfer portal trackers to see if any of these players are leaving, but that's not information that will always be publicly available until official rosters are released.
Hit the jump for the breakdown:
2025 ROSTER (Experience and final season of eligibility is in parentheses)
- DB Caleb Anderson (6th, 2025)
- DB Ricky Johnson (6th, 2025)
- QB Mikey Keene (RS Sr., 2025)
- QB Davis Warren (RS Sr., 2025)
- RB Henry Donohue (RS Sr., 2025)
- WR Donaven McCulley (RS Sr., 2025)
- WR Peyton O'Leary (RS Sr., 2025)
- WR Anthony Simpson (RS Sr., 2025)
- WR Joe Taylor (RS Sr., 2025)
- TE Max Bredeson (RS Sr., 2025)
- TE Noah Howes (RS Sr., 2025)
- OL Greg Crippen (RS Sr., 2025)
- OL Giovanni El-Hadi (RS Sr., 2025)
- OL Lawrence Hattar (RS Sr., 2025)
- EDGE Kechaun Bennett (RS Sr., 2025)
- EDGE T.J. Guy (RS Sr., 2025)
- EDGE Tyler McLaurin (RS Sr., 2025)
- DT Rayshaun Benny (RS Sr., 2025)
- DT Ikechukwu Iwunnah (RS Sr., 2025)
- DT Damon Payne (RS Sr., 2025)
- DT Tre Williams (RS Sr., 2025)
- LB Trevor Andrews (RS Sr., 2025)
- LB Jaydon Hood (RS Sr., 2025)
- DB Ja'Den McBurrows (RS Sr., 2025)
- DB Rod Moore (RS Sr., 2025)
- WR Amorion Walker (Sr., 2025)
- EDGE Derrick Moore (Sr., 2025)
- LB Jaishawn Barham (Sr., 2025)
- LB Ernest Hausmann (Sr., 2025)
- K Dominic Zvada (Sr., 2025)
- WR Logan Forbes (RS Jr., 2026)
- TE Marlin Klein (RS Jr., 2026)
- TE Brandon Mann (RS Jr., 2026)
- OL Connor Jones (RS Jr., 2026)
- OL Daniel Taraboi (RS Jr., 2026)
- EDGE Chibi Anwunah (RS Jr., 2026)
- EDGE Joey Klunder (RS Jr., 2026)
- DT Alessandro Lorenzetti (RS Jr., 2026)
- LB Jimmy Rolder (RS Jr., 2026)
- DB Nico Andrighetto (RS Jr., 2026)
- DB Zeke Berry (RS Jr., 2026)
- DB Jaden Mangham (RS Jr., 2026)
- DB Josh Nichols (RS Jr., 2026)
- DB Bryce Wilcox (RS Jr., 2026)
- P Hudson Hollenbeck (RS Jr., 2026)
- LS Evan Boutorwick (RS Jr., 2026)
- LS James Kavouklis (RS Jr., 2026)
- RB Justice Haynes (Jr., 2026)
- WR Fredrick Moore (Jr., 2026)
- WR Semaj Morgan (Jr., 2026)
- DT Trey Pierce (Jr., 2026)
- DB Brandyn Hillman (Jr., 2026)
- DB T.J. Metcalf (Jr., 2026)
- K Beckham Sunderland (Jr., 2026)
- RB Benjamin Hall (RS So., 2027)
- RB Bryson Kuzdzal (RS So., 2027)
- WR Kendrick Bell (RS So., 2027)
- TE Jalen Hoffman (RS So., 2027)
- TE Zack Marshall (RS So., 2027)
- TE Deakon Tonielli (RS So., 2027)
- OL Brooks Bahr (RS So., 2027)
- OL Nathan Efobi (RS So., 2027)
- OL Evan Link (RS So., 2027)
- OL Brady Norton (RS So., 2027)
- EDGE Aymeric Koumba (RS So., 2027)
- DT Enow Etta (RS So., 2027)
- LB Troy Bowles (RS So., 2027)
- LB Grayson Dee (RS So., 2027)
- LB Liam Groulx (RS So., 2027)
- LB Jason Hewlett (RS So., 2027)
- LB Jack MacKinnon (RS So., 2027)
- DB Jyaire Hill (RS So., 2027)
- K Cordell Jones-McNally (RS So., 2027)
- LS Trent Middleton (RS So., 2027)
- RB Jordan Marshall (So., 2027)
- TE Hogan Hansen (So., 2027)
- LB Cole Sullivan (So., 2027)
- DB Mason Curtis (So., 2027)
- DB Jo'Ziah Edmond (So., 2027)
- DB Tevis Metcalf (So., 2027)
- QB Jadyn Davis (RS Fr., 2028)
- WR Channing Goodwin (RS Fr., 2028)
- WR I'Marion Stewart (RS Fr., 2028)
- RB Micah Ka'apana (RS Fr., 2028)
- TE Brady Prieskorn (RS Fr., 2028)
- OL Blake Frazier (RS Fr., 2028)
- OL Jake Guarnera (RS Fr., 2028)
- Luke Hamilton (RS Fr., 2028)
- OL Ben Roebuck (RS Fr., 2028)
- OL Andrew Sprague (RS Fr., 2028)
- EDGE Devon Baxter (RS Fr., 2028)
- EDGE Dominic Nichols (RS Fr., 2028)
- DT Manuel Beigel (RS Fr., 2028)
- DT Ted Hammond (RS Fr., 2028)
- LB Zach Ludwig (RS Fr., 2028)
- DB Jeremiah Lowe (RS Fr., 2028)
- DB Jacob Oden (RS Fr., 2028)
- QB Chase Herbstreit (Fr., 2028)
- QB Bryce Underwood (Fr., 2028)
- RB Donovan Johnson (Fr., 2028)
- RB Jasper Parker (Fr., 2028)
- WR Jamar Browder (Fr., 2028)
- WR Andrew Marsh (Fr., 2028)
- WR Jacob Washington (Fr., 2028)
- TE Eli Owens (Fr., 2028)
- OL Andrew Babalola (Fr., 2028)
- OL Avery Gach (Fr., 2028)
- OL Ty Haywood (Fr., 2028)
- OL Kaden Strayhorn (Fr., 2028)
- EDGE Julius Holly (Fr., 2028)
- EDGE Nate Marshall (Fr., 2028)
- DT Bobby Kanka (Fr., 2028)
- DT Travis Moten (Fr., 2028)
- DT Benny Patterson (Fr., 2028)
- LB Nathaniel Owusu-Boateng (Fr., 2028)
- LB Chase Taylor (Fr., 2028)
- DB Elijah Dotson (Fr., 2028)
- DB Shamari Earls (Fr., 2028)
- DB Jayden Sanders (Fr., 2028)
- DB Kainoa Winston (Fr., 2028)
- DB Jordan Young (Fr., 2028)
Walkons have some very inspiring stories. Glasgows. Warren. Kovacs.
ReplyDeleteBut we should look at this as "2o extra scholarships," which still leaves room for projects and uncovered gems
The people affected by this are the student body "true" walk-ons. It's a bummer there will be fewer of them.
ReplyDeleteMost walk-ons are not preferred walk-on types who get recruited like the Glasgows, Kovacs or Warren. Those guys were already on expedited paths to scholarships even if they aren't good enough to get one straight off. This change just makes it easier for them.
Student body types are usually guys from local high schools, maybe getting in once or twice a year or maybe even a career. They are happy to just be on the team. They are grinding on the scout team for 4 or 5 years without a lot of glory, beyond telling their friends and family they made the team. Maybe try to get scout team player of the week. Maybe get a highlight in the spring game. Get on TV celebrating after a big win. Be on the sideline and experience big time college football. For those kids they are not going to have that experience of a lifetime. I've known/know some guys like this and it's too bad to see them lose out on this experience. It's part of the culture of college football. Too bad.
Not trying to pick on anyone specific but just to give some examples of guys most fans never hear about. This is what a walk-ons look like in many/most cases:
https://mgoblue.com/sports/football/roster/joshua-luther/24379
https://mgoblue.com/sports/football/roster/bryce-wilcox/25523
https://mgoblue.com/sports/football/roster/joel-metzger/25492
https://mgoblue.com/sports/football/roster/john-weidenbach/25522
I wonder if there will still be a place for guys like this on some sort of practice squad even if they don't get to be on the roster.
Colleges have flag football and other intramurals
ReplyDeleteI really do not get this rule. Why limit the number of walk-ons? Like Lank said, these are just kids who are happy to make the team. Kids who just love to be around football. There is a reason they made a movie called Rudy. We loved the underdog story. Boo to roster limit.
ReplyDeleteI get why they're doing it, because it limits the number of players one team can hog. It's the same reason why the NFL has 53-man rosters rather than letting them just hire as many good players as they can afford. Now Michigan can't stash a "preferred walk-on" type on its roster, and he can instead go to Western Michigan or Ball State and actually have a shot at starting instead of just being an occasional special teamer.
DeleteBut yeah, the "pretty good high school athlete" who just wants to run out for 7 Saturdays a fall and touch the banner while watching his future NFL teammates beat up on people is screwed. I mean, I guess that's the nature of pro sports, right? There's no 5'5" Alijah Bradley sitting at the end of an NBA bench just because he loves the game.
I think this is more likely to make Michigan stash more preferred walk-on types. They have more scholarships to hand out to marginal recruits.
DeleteWhen you go from 85 to 105 scholarships -- that's PWO types being put on scholarship.
Instead of calling a Glasgow a PWO, they just put them on scholarship now. This encourages bigtime programs to get more of these guys (and thus the MAC schools or D2 schools etc to get less).
The chance of starting vs special teams role is always going to be a dynamic that is there and will continue to be there, for guys on and off scholarship. A theoretical Kovacs/Warren type can come to Michigan, develop his skills and then just transfer when he is done being patient with a smaller role, just like a 4 star guy who is just not good enough to be a starter at Michigan. So again, your PWO types are now more like a typical 3 star recruit who can choose to be a big fish in a small pond or a small fish in a big pond.
The bottom fringes of the roster is where this change will be felt.
When you go from 136 to 105 -- that's your local high school guys no longer being on the team. These 21 at the bottom of the roster are the ones getting squeezed here. Many of them will still go to Michigan because they know they are who they are -- they will just play IM instead of you know...major college football. A massive difference, if you ever played IM at Michigan you'd know it's competitive but not something guys are devoting 30 or 40 hours a week like they do on the actual teams.
I honestly don't know what the 105 rule does to help anyone but the big programs get even stronger.
I think the preferred walk-on types add up after a few seasons. Yes, there are only a handful per class, but eventually, those 7 or 8 per class end up as 25-30 guys on a roster at any given time. All the "preferred" status guaranteed was a spot on the fall roster as a freshman, so those became your walk-ons or scholarship types down the road. Basically, what I'm saying is that "preferred" only counted for year one. So Caden Kolesar, for example, was a PWO as a freshman, then just a standard walk-on in year two, and eventually ended up on scholarship when someone transferred out and Michigan went under the 85 limit.
DeleteI question this assertion (please feel free to name the 25-30 PWOs on last years team to prove me wrong). But it's beside the point.
DeleteThere are 20 additional scholarships every year by going to 105, so even if your assertion of 25-30 additional PWOs potentially converted to scholarships, you are not far off. The majority of them are still less likely to take a scholarship at the MAC because the deal at Michigan just got sweeter for them because now one advantage the MAC school had ('we give you a scholarship, with them you have to pay') is gone.
This helps Michigan not only keep who they got but also get guys they are now losing (who prefer a scholarship in the MAC to walking on in the BIG10).
Kolesar was never a typical student body walk-on. He didn't lose anything after his freshman year. He didn't ever have to go to an open tryout. He was always "preferred" on a fast track to getting a scholarship if things worked out as anticipated. Now, instead of waiting 2 years to be on scholarship he will be on scholarship from day 1. Advantage Michigan.
Again, this makes it easier for Michigan to get and hold onto guys like him, Glasgow, Tru Wilson, Max Bredeson, Peyton O'Leary etc. The vast majority of walk-ons that make a bigger impact on the field are preferred walk-ons, not student body guys.
105 doesn't help the MAC schools. 85 scholarships helped them more. 105 helps them less.
The MAC schools have lessened their chances of getting PWO types away from Michigan but increased their chances of getting student body walk-on types (who now have no chance of making the team at Michigan).
Stone Anderson, Nico Andrighetto, Chibi Anwunah, Christian Boivin, Evan Boutorwick, Max Bredeson, Micah Davis, Grayson Dee, Logan Forbes, Leon Franklin, Liam Groulx, Keshaun Harris, Jalen Hoffman, Hudson Hollenbeck, Noah Howes, James Kavouklis, Joey Klunder, Bryson Kuzdzal, Alexander Lidback, Jack MacKinnon, Cole Morgan, Josh Nichols, Peyton O'Leary, Peter Simmons, Shomari Stone, Dan Taraboi, Greg Tarr, William Wagner, Davis Warren, Bryce Wilcox.
DeleteI swear I didn't look for exactly 30, but I went down the roster and typed out the guys I believe were PWOs coming out of high school. My memory isn't perfect so I might be wrong about a few of them, but I'm not wrong about many. So that's 30 guys (roughly) who were on the roster in 2024 who began their career at Michigan as preferred walk-ons.
First off, well done. It's a bigger number than I thought.
DeleteBut the question isn't who started as a PWO it's how many additional scholarships would Michigan have to use up (on PWOs in 2024) to keep them (theoretically) away from a lesser school (e.g., MAC). Guys that they will now (presumably) have to spend a scholarship on to keep that they wouldn't have in the past. In other words, what will the effect of the change from 85 to 105 be?
Here are a few that I know are not walk-ons in 2024 and thus would not count against the 20 extra scholarships (with 105) because either a) they are already counting against the 85 (not the extra 20 that will be available) or b) have other scholarships (and thus would not count against either 85 or 105).
Harris - is at UM on a track scholarship
Franklin - is on an academic scholarship
Bredeson, Warren and OLeary are on football scholarships
That's 5 that definitely don't "count" for this exercise.
I am pretty sure at least one of the long-snappers is on scholarship too. Wagner I believe. I won't die on this hill though.
I am not sure Hollenback's status either but I know you have him as a WO.
Anyway that culls the list to no more than 25. Less 20 extra scholarships we're down to 5 being affected, at most. So whatever benefit might be there for a lesser school is incremental at best.
Now consider that this hypothetical MAC school is probably still ALSO not offering scholarships to the special teams walkons (long snappers, backup kickers, etc) and the difference is probably down to zero. Call that category c) -- not getting a scholarship in either case.
Maybe you can count Michigan's 4th option at long snapper as a casualty though.
So anyway, I will stick to my conclusion that this change to 105 benefits Michigan more than it benefits CMU, EMU, WMU, etc.
Realistically we are going to steal some guys that were getting scholarships from those schools now, and they will take the place of some guys who come from enough money that scholarships are less important to.
Harris isn't on track scholarship anymore so that is an error by me. I dunno if he's on a football scholarship or not. Adjust the above analysis by 1.
Delete@ Lank 1:25 p.m.
DeleteThe guys who aren't walk-ons ANYMORE - Bredeson, Warren, O'Leary, etc. - are still relevant, because those are the types of guys who may not have even been on the roster if Michigan didn't have such a big roster in the first place. O'Leary, for example, isn't necessarily a better player than someone Michigan could have put on scholarship right from the jump. Sometimes those walk-on guys end up on scholarship because they happen to be around, and FBS teams are/were required to use those 85 scholarships, regardless.
Sometimes those types of guys are/were given scholarships during the winter semester or over the summer when someone else quit or transferred out during a window when Michigan couldn't accept/find a transfer.
There are lots of people who disagree with you about this change to 105 players benefiting Michigan. This is a step towards parity, at least for a certain echelon of teams. I'm not saying Ball State will be a playoff contender in two years, but this is cutting off a certain chunk of players who would normally be hoarded on a roster like Michigan's.
There are going to be schools like Nebraska or Illinois or Missouri who are going to be helped by this rule.
Why wouldn't they be on the roster? With 20 more scholarships to hand out, they could just be on scholarship sooner. Michigan becomes MORE attractive to them, not less. We lock those guys down, more than ever.
DeleteYou're focused on the COST to Michigan of going from 136 to 105. That's the worst/least valuable 21 guys on the roster that are lost. That's a real cost but in terms of on-the-field contribution it's minimal. Again, that is mostly, if not entirely, student body walk-ons and lower end PWOs (backup long snapers, 4th string kickers, 16th OL, etc.) A different kind of player than the better PWOs that we battle to recruit. Student body walk ons rarely see more than special teams or garbage time snaps, if they see any at all. PWOs turn into key backups or better regularly.
With this change, alongside the COST, you have to also consider the BENEFIT to Michigan of getting better players or locking down guys 86-105. This is where most of the PWOs live, including the best ones, the ones we fight with OSU to get (like Glagow) or beat out the Ivy Leagues or D2 for (Warren). There is NO reason to assume these guys will no longer be available to Michigan now that we are able to offer them something better than we were able to offer them before.
If your argument is that we are going to recruit more 3-stars well OK -- that means we got better! A scholarship 3-star recruit is going to be better than a 2-star PWO. Not in every case of course but on average we (Michigan) gets better with this change.
Either we solidify with our best PWOs or we get even better talent than them. The FLOOR here is keeping the best of what we have. The CEILING Is getting substantially better from spots 86 to 105.
Michigan gets better. The supply of talent is the same and Michigan is getting a bigger chunk of it with 105 instead of 85 scholarships to offer people.
You're cutting the last 21 guys (mostly if not all student body walk-ons) by going from 136 to 105, not the best of the PWOs. By your math, only a handful of PWOs would even be in conversation for getting cut. Kolesar (for example) is never outside of the top 105. Neither is Warren, Glasgow, Bredeson, etc. Some are, but very few.
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The analogy here is the Portal. Michigan loses more guys than it gains because of the portal but the guys they gain are by and large major contributors and many (most?) are NFL caliber guys. The guys going out are mostly backups, though there are certainly many quality players going out as well, the net benefit to Michigan is massive. We do lose some. But we gain SO much more.
Michigan loses volume but gains quality. This change makes Michigan stronger, and the programs below Michigan are (as a result) less strong.
The shuffling around of talent favors the rich and powerful. Not the poor. Fresno State loses out. Michigan gains. Their starter becomes a guy who may or may not be ours. Yes New Mexico State will benefit from getting Omaury Samuels from us, but we benefit a lot more from getting Josiah Stewart from Coastal Carolina.
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Nebraska and Illinois and MIssouri will be helped by this rule too, relative to MAC teams -- they're big time teams in a power conference. They'll take more MAC level guys with this rule. Relative to Michigan though?
They are losers. Michigan will be helped more because they are at the top of the pecking order.
More scholarships = more consolidation of talent. Harder for schools that used to be able to say "yeah maybe you'd rather play there but we have a scholarship for you and they do not". Toledo and Ball State can't say that as often if there are 360 more Big Ten scholarships floating around.
DeleteWith 360 more scholarships in the big ten -- don't you think some of those are going to be some starters at Ball State going out the door (just like some starters at Ball State went out the door once the Portal opened up). So yeah Ball State will maybe have to use some of the guys who would have student body walked on to Michigan, but not as often as they lose starting caliber guys (for them) to be backups (for us).
In other words, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
The "chunk of players who would normally be hoarded on a roster like Michigan's" are not going to move the needle at a place like ball state, they are going to play IM football at Michigan because they are going to become accountants and engineers not pro football players.
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I am OK if people disagree with me. People are wrong a lot. People don't believe smoking is bad for you. People don't think car seats are important. People don't think black people should play QB. People believe RBIs are an important statistic in baseball. People don't think you should take too many 3s in basketball. People think time of possession is a key to winning in football. People believe RBs are important. etc.
I'm not saying I'm never wrong (Alan Bowman for Heisman! Sainristil at DB won't work!) but I would like a cogent explanation for why my logic is flawed here.
Michigan is getting MORE scholarships to work with. That is GOOD for Michigan. The bad part is outlined above (for true walk ons it sucks) but it's 20 scholarships more (i.e., 3 stars and PWOs) vs 21 fewer roster spots (mostly student body walk ons and maybe a few bottom-end PWOs) and that's a win for Michigan. A win for MIchigan (and OSU and Oregon and all the other powers) is a loss for the other (lesser) schools.
If Michigan was going from 136 to 105 scholarships, your take would be spot on. That's not the case.
This is a step that further consolidates more talent to the power programs like Michigan. Just like the portal does.
Back to back to back essays ... desperate to argue
Delete@ Lank
DeleteI've seen you use this 21 number a couple times. Just for the record, 136 minus 105 equals 31. Not 21.
The key number is the 20 extra scholarships. That will cover the impactful PWOs. Maybe not entirely, but not far off.
DeleteAs an example I will go back to 2021 (since those guys careers are complete and we know who might become something or not) and list 26 walk-ons who are AFAIK true walk-ons or lower tier PWOs (e.g., fringe backup special teamers). I may inadvertently included a few PWOs, I admit, but we are not talking about Glasgow/Bredeson types here.
No casual fan has heard of these guys because they are mostly "true walk-ons" not PWOs who would have/will be still on the roster when the limit is 105.
Payton Smith
Jesse Madden
Danny Hughes
Christian Barholomew
Rhett Anderson
Will Rolapp
Lucas Andrighetto
Nolan Knight
Luke Buckman
Nico Tiberia
Matt Torey
Trevor Andrews
Andrew Russell
Joshua Luther
Noah Howes
Alexander Lidback
Kraig Correll
Mica Gelb
Jake Friedamn
Elijah Pierre
Peter Simmons
Hunter Neff
Sam Staruch
Mathew Harrison
Cole Hussang
Cut those 26 guys and you don't affect the PWO program (or only incrementally if you do). Add 5 PWOs to get to 31 and the same narrative holds. You are only affecting the PWOs on the fringes. This is not a meaningful benefit to the Nebraskas and Indianas of the world.
Even in your most impactful scenario where Nebraska or Indiana is getting our Leon Franklins, Jake Thaws, Greg Tarrs, Josh Beethams, and Joe Taylors (none of whom were listed above but could be in the next 5 who might lose a spot) that is not much of win for them when they are probably busy losing another Earnest Hausmann to Michigan, OSU, Alabama, etc who now have a bunch more scholarships to hand out. The story is even worse for the MAC teams because they are losing guys not only to Michigan, OSU, Alabama, etc but scholarship-rich Rutgers, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt.
The rich get richer. Whatever quibbles you might have with this analysis, that logic holds up. More scholarship for the primo prestige programs means less 3 star talent going to the other schools. Fewer roster spots at the bottom of the roster of the primo prestige mean more low end talent (2 stars and lower) going to the other schools.
Trading 2 stars for 3 stars is a win for Michigan, and therefore a relative loss for the schools below it.
https://touch-the-banner.com/2021-season-countdown-list/
ReplyDeleteStart with the top 90 from that list. Add 4 scholarships guys who didn't rank in the top 90 (Allen, Giudice, El Hadi, Paea) and 11 PWOs (Bredeson, Warren, Hefley, Boivin, O'Leary, Stewart, Thaw, Gash, Franklin, Nicols, Harris) to get to 105.
Now tell me what we lose by going down from 131 to 105 after that.
And then how Nebraska gains an advantage by hypothetically getting those guys.
Someone did their homework
ReplyDeleteNow find "an X's & O's guy" who proves you right on The Don's touchdown v Washington ... or find a coach or GM who agrees "RBs don't matter"
Dodge coming, again
#changethatname
Dodge and Deflect. The jelllllly special. "I can't hang. Let's change the topic!". aka #notbuilt4this
DeleteThat's one strategy to try to avoid the L, but the funny part here is that you just want to hold up your previous L's -- denying the textbook defensive reaction to QB run threat on a zone read, and the facts on NFL salaries by position.
Too somethin.
Okay, you dodged & deflected ... then changed your name on command
ReplyDelete#whiteflagaccepted
"responding to every post"
DeleteOr maybe just making a new one.
#fantasy
#obsessed with Lank
#too somethin
Tell. The. Kids.
DeleteShow them what I've reduced you to
#namechange
#stilldodging