2023 Starter: Blake Corum
Losses: Corum, Leon Franklin, C.J. Stokes
Returning players: Kalel Mullings (RS Sr.), Donovan Edwards (Sr.), Tavierre Dunlap (RS Jr.), Cole Cabana (RS Fr.), Benjamin Hall (RS Fr.)
Newcomers: N/A
Projected starter: Edwards
For having lost such a large part of Michigan's program over the past three years in running back Blake Corum, Michigan's running game will look pretty familiar in 2024. Corum ran 675 times for 3,737 yards and 58 touchdowns in his career, becoming Michigan's top career touchdown scorer. But his primary backup, Donovan Edwards, had some huge games at opportune times.
Edwards ran 119 times for 497 yards (4.2 yards/carry) and 5 touchdowns in 2023, and he caught 30 passes for 249 yards (8.3 yards/catch). His entire season was pretty ho-hum . . . except for a 22-yard touchdown in a tight game against Penn State . . . and then two 40+ yard scores against Washington in the national championship game. He goes into the spring as the odds-on favorite to start, but he's somewhat of a proven commodity. Michigan showed last year that they don't really want to subject running backs to extra wear and tear, and we even learned that Corum and Edwards basically weren't tackled all the way through fall camp. We'll see if the transition to Sherrone Moore as head coach changes that equation at all.
The other intriguing option at running back is former linebacker Kalel Mullings, who has been playing offense since the 2022 postseason. He ran 36 times for 222 yards (6.2 yards/carry) and 1 touchdown, and he even caught 2 passes for 32 yards, including a key 19-yard reception against Alabama in the Rose Bowl. There were times in 2023 when he looked like the more instinctive back, and he's certainly more adept at breaking tackles.
Second-year player Benjamin Hall was the breakout star of the 2023 spring game, and his one solid showing during the season was a 9-carry, 58-yard performance against Indiana. He's a bowling ball at 5'11" and 234 pounds, but he's unlikely to break into the top two at the position. Fellow second-year back Cole Cabana had just 2 carries for 6 yards in 2023 and had some injuries that limited him to one game; at 6'0" and 198 pounds, he's a speedster who still has to get his body ready for the college game.
The Wolverines lost C.J. Stokes (transfer to Charlotte) and walk-on Leon Franklin (transfer to Tennessee Tech), so along with Cabana and Hall, expect to see a good-sized dose of guys like walk-ons Henry Donohue (career: 3 carries for 9 yards) and Bryson Kudzal (career: 0 carries) toting the ball to keep Edwards and Mullings fresh for the fall. Kudzal's high school profile touts a 4.41 forty and a 40" vertical, but he's an in-state, small-school product who was a little bit stiff and upright as a runner in high school.
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ReplyDeleteWe all know about Edwards at this point. Terrible year by starter standards and excellent year by backup standards -- expectations define the evaluation. We can be very confident with him as the starter because of what he did to close 2022, the obvious talent, and his overall track record headed into senior year.
More of an X factor is Mullings, who will likely step into the top backup role and get rotate through to get a big number of snaps. He's a high floor veteran but the variable to me comes with his potential at fullback. He is most interesting if he can play that role and switch back and forth. Michigan displayed a surprising (to me at least) willingness to play to RBs in the backfield last year and Mullings seems to be very versatile in being able to run and catch and lead block. I doubted him, but he proved to be a very solid college player and I hope to see him used creatively.
There was a time in the Bo era where having hybrid RB/FBs who lined up at both was a pretty common thing -- Mullings fits that old school mold of a Jarrod Bunch.
No real reason for either to play in the Spring game. The others are all interesting in different ways and I imagine they'll all be given opportunities to emerge into a big role. Mullings is not an insurmountable challenge for playing time. Moreover, the coaches would clearly rather have 3 options if any of them are good enough to break into the rotation. The opportunity is there for Marshall, Hall, and Cabana to show their stuff.
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ReplyDeleteI'm hoping for creative use of The Don. Not a reimagining, but just some confidence boosters to get him in the open field
ReplyDeleteMullings may turn some heads in a Hassan Haskins sort of way
Not sure about Dunlap or Hall. Last year my expectations were a bit too high for Cabana; hopefully he filled out more for the role
Is Jordan Marshall on campus yet?
Hall is very interesting to me. I don't think I've ever seen a back with anything remotely close to his size and power, so patient and then so slick at the little things a back can do to avoid or minimize contact. Then he's so powerful he just explodes through your puny hit.
ReplyDeleteI think he might be special.
Roanman
I like Hall too and think he can be a fun player to watch and highly effective. But typically RBs who are SPECIAL show more their freshman year. I'd put his ceiling at Higdon level for now. Being behind Mullings last year probably means he isn't the next Ty Wheatley or Blake Corum.
DeleteBlake Corum as a freshman: 26 carries, 77 yards, 2 TD
DeleteBen Hall as a freshman: 15 carries, 69 yards, 0 TD
Corum got an extra 11 carries for 8 more yards than Hall.
Did Ben Hall play in a shortened season? Did Ben Hall share a backfield with 3 NFL RBs older than him? Did Ben Hall emerge to be the #2 back in said loaded backfield of NFL choices by the end of his freshman year? Did Ben Hall's role subsequently result in a second round pick transferring away for playing time? Because Blake Corum did that as a freshman.
DeleteLast 3 games (second half) of 2020:
Corum: 15 touches
Charbonnet: 10 touches
Evans: 12 touches
HH was the starter by the end of the year and Corum was stealing snaps from future NFL starters.
Ben Hall did not do anything of the kind, even with 15 games of opportunity to Corum's 6. Even with the benefit of a real camp, and a real OL, and real QB.
There's more to life than box scores.
I'll put it more diplomatically...
DeleteAre there any examples of "special" RBs who, as freshman RBs, finished their seasons below 3rd string on the depth chart, with <100 yards on the season, and zero TDs?
Special being defined as a heisman finalists or drafted in the top 2 rounds. I'll even accept 1st team all conference types if they get drafted in the top 4 rounds.
I bet it's happened in the last 30 years at some point. But, I would assert, very rarely. and usually there would be some mitigating circumstances like a major injury.
I would be happy to be proven wrong.
Nah, you'd just lie
DeleteThat's a lot of filters, but Melvin Gordon had 98 yards and 1 touchdown as a freshman. LaMichael James redshirted. Rachaad White redshirted as a freshman. Brian Robinson, Jr. had 165 yards and 2 touchdowns, but 50 yards and 1 touchdown came against FCS Mercer. Pierre Strong redshirted as a freshman at South Dakota State. Hassan Haskins had 0 carries as a freshman and played linebacker.
DeleteI literally only checked one year of the draft - plus a list of Heisman finalists - and found about 5 exceptions who more or less fit your very narrow list of criteria.
I'm not even saying Benjamin Hall WILL be special. But you talk all the time about small sample sizes, and now you're taking a small sample size and jumping to a conclusion.
James is a great example. Tip of the cap.
DeleteI'm talking all of college football and you had to go back to 2008 to find a counter example that fits as special and doing nothing as a freshman RB.
Robinson Jr is KIND OF close but played in a backfield even more loaded than Michigan's 2020 backfield and STILL made noise. He's a great example of a 5th year draftable RB though!
Gordon was a medical red-shirt. He played right away but got hurt a few games into the season.
https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/Article/gilbert-gordon-will-redshirt--49261/
HH was not a freshman RB - he was a freshman LB
White was an athlete making a brief stop and elected to sit out to preserve a red-shirt before jumping to JUCO in year 2.
The other guy is a 4th round pick from FCS. I dunno much about him but special seems like as stretch.
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Again, you got me with LaMichael James. I stand by my assertion otherwise.
The vast majority of freshman RBs who are going to shine at the college level are at least making noise as freshman. Certainly more noise than Hall made.
Other guys are going to recover from injuries or change positions. I didn't say every great RB is great as a freshman. But if you're healthy and playing RB very very few excellent players are just doing nothing or next to it.
This does not mean guys don't get better -- Karan Higdon did. Chris Perry did. We've talked about this before. It just means doing nothing means you're unlikely to be great. You can be Drake Johnson, maybe you can be draft late like Michael Cox, but you're very unlikely to be a Heisman or top NFL pick.
Gifted runners are going to play (some) right away and make (some) impressions - even if it's in a limited opportunity. Hall didn't do that. I'll be happy if he's one of the exceptions though!
Kind of funny that we're here calling 4th round NFL picks special, even if they are just backups while in the Joe Milton conversation we're saying a projected 6th/7th round pick leaves a lot to be desired.
DeleteShhhh ... case closed
DeleteCase closed and you lost again. Everytime!
DeleteI'm not buying the gotta show it as a freshman thing, Lanky.
ReplyDeleteThe single most special Rb I've ever seen couldn't get past Thurmon Thomas until he moved on to the pros. I suppose you could argue Thomas was also special, probably, but still. We had really talented backs in front of Hall who were also more mature and had been in huge games before Hall even made it to campus. There is a strong likelihood that two of the guys in front of Hall, barring injury, are gonna play on Sunday, maybe three. Why burn a redshirt when the whole world knows that it's Corum and then Edwards when the games really matter. Besides, at Michigan backs gotta block too. That part of the game takes a minute.
Yes, there are many fabulous backs that showed up at places with a thin RB room and made waves early. I can't think of a back anywhere in the country that I would rather be handing the ball to in OT against Alabama last year than Blake Corum.
Expectations for a freshman year from Hall in 2023 are not being fair to Hall.
Roanman
That was almost 40 years ago and you are talking about Barry Sanders sitting behind Thurman Thomas, the most extraordinary backfield of all time. And Barry still got 70 some carries as TT's backup anyway.
DeleteI'm not saying you have to be a starter but if you're not pushing up on the depth chart and making the coaches say "we need to give this kid the damn ball" -- you're VERY likely not to be "special" as a soph, junior, or senior.
But hey, I'll be glad to be wrong. I like Ben Hall.
What special running back sticks around for a 5th year? They're all going to the NFL after 3 or 4 years. Even HH who spent his freshman year tackling people at LB didn't stick 5 years.
Hall could be a 1000 yard back for Michigan. I just don't think we're talking "special" when he did so little as a frosh.
DeleteHigdon is the only RB I can think of that came close to that kind of turn around from doing nothing as a freshman to being a quality starter, and he wasn't even drafted. Far from special.
I wouldn't rule it out entirely I would just say 99% unlikely to be special if you're THAT quiet in a backfield where Kaleel Mullings was getting snaps.
You keep talking about Kalel Mullings like he's chopped liver. But up above you praised Blake Corum for "stealing snaps from future NFL players."
DeleteKalel Mullings got carries with the first team in 2023 that could have gone to Blake Corum (who's going to get drafted) or Donovan Edwards (who's probably going to get drafted). And there were times where it looked like he was ahead of Edwards. He also averaged 6.2 yards/carry, including 5.0 yards/carry against Iowa, 6.0 yards/carry against Alabama, and 7.0 yards/carry against Washington.
Yes - I agree Thunder. Credit to Mullings or stealing snaps from 2 NFL players. Those were mostly in a short-yardage specialist role but definitely not exclusively. I would say he stole those snaps more from Edwards than Corum, but it's splitting hairs. He turned what could have been a 2 man job into a 3 man job. He earned his role.
DeleteStill - as a senior Mullings got 36 carries, which is less than half of what Roanman's reference (Freshman Barry Sanders) got.
This isn't really about Mullings but even if you consider him a future NFL RB, Hall still didn't do what Corum did.
Interesting names showing up to replace Mike Hart at Running Backs. I would jump at the opportunity to get Jonathon Wallace from Kansas. I think I'd give him the money and would think real hard about the title Running Game Coordinator as well.
ReplyDeleteAfter us, Kansas has the most interesting and dynamic running game in all of football. I caught them twice early last year against Illinois and ... somebody ... maybe BYU, and then again in their bowl game. They are a real nice combination of tough and clever running the football.
I think Wallace would be just a huge upgrade.
Roanman
I agree about Kansas. I think you have to keep people guessing and morph your play calling - especially the run game - to keep people on their toes. Some teams just used to be able to stick to power or inside/outside zone and make it their staple for years, but Michigan got to this point by having a varied, multi-faceted run game. You still have your bread-and-butter concepts, but I like that Michigan has answers for a lot of different fronts.
DeleteI don't think Matt Weiss was a great hire on a personal level, but I do think he was a key component in helping the offensive staff learn and adjust over the past few years.
You could get something similar from Wallace. I like Kansas's offense. Penn State got a piece of it this off-season with the OC, too, so hiring Wallace could kind of help Michigan get in their heads, too, to know what to expect from their O.
I was hoping to hold off on Hart comments until his Goodbye Post, but man I think it sucks. Dude is a MICHIGAN legend, and has as much to do with that Champion culture we enjoyed as anyone left
DeleteBUT, leave is to Roanman to steal my thoughts. Not only is the KU run game impressive, but it's so multifaceted that I think he'd be EXACTLY what I've wanted for The Don: don't just run him into a wall, waiting for a hole to allow him to explode ... dude may not survive through October. Sprinkle in some variety - while maintaining identity - and let your RB1 instill fear in opposing defenses, while the rest of the RB room eats a bit ... that can also aide our pass game, with brand new WRs and a question marks at QB
Do RB coaches have much influence on play calling and scheme?
DeleteThunder is talking about Matt Weiss here, but Weiss was never the RB coach he was the QB coach. Fred Jackson was RB coach for 100 years but that was through completely different schemes through the Debord, Rodriguez, Borges eras.
I don't get the sense RB coaches have much influence on scheme or playcalling. Maybe I'm wrong.
We're talking about RB Coach and Run Game Coordinator ... catch up
DeleteMatt Weiss brought Ravens run game concepts with him. I know you can't comprehend the tape, but our run game was different from the Speed In Space approach of Gattis in 2o19-2o
DeleteMatt Weiss was not the RB coach.
DeleteI'm asking a sincere question about Wallace and his role in Kansas success. Is he the brains behind the run game or is it Leipold or the guy PSU just hired away to be their OC, their OL coach, etc?
At Michigan the RB coach has never been the scheme guy. It's been a spot that even pre-NIL/analyst era emphasized recruiting.
No, he was not RB Coach. But coaching is collaborative, and as an Analyst and Coach with the Ravens, Weiss was very familiar with their concepts, which played a part in our run game changing to match
DeleteNeither of our previous DCs were Coordinators at Baltimore either, but they too were Analysts & position coaches there, well versed in the scheme, and likewise imported it to MICHIGAN
I don't understand why it's difficult to comprehend Wallace doing the same from Kansas in a similar move ... well, perhaps only those who actually understand the game get it
Can you provide examples of RB coaches who have elevated to successful OCs?
DeleteJesse Minter was a DC and MIke McDonald was an NFL LB coach. Those guys moving up makes sense. Weiss coached different positions every year, kinda like Jaybaugh. But RB coaches? Those tend to be guys who are there to recruit first and foremost and then skills development (blocking especially was emphasized by Hart and Fred Jackson and route running - since many kids don't get great route running coaching in HS).
Nobody is saying coaching isn't collaborative -- the comment is specific to RB coaches and their (lack of) history with being the Xs and Os guys. I'm confident there are exceptions. I just don't know who they are.
Tyrone Wheatley is another RB coach who people talked up before he came to Michigan. Rightfully so in the sense that he was a RB and has coached the RB spot for all but a handful of the last 20 years. He's an NFL caliber RB coach holding this job with multiple NFL teams -- in other words he's one of the 30 best RB coaches on this planet. Michigan was lucky to have him serve in that same role at Michigan (kinda like Wink).
Yet as a head coach...he's coaching at places like Morgan State and Wayne State and not doing it very well.
You hopefully get the point but if you don't I'll spell it out for you. RB coaches rarely are the Xs and Os guys driving scheme. Can they chip in? Of course -- but it's going to be Moore, Campbell, and Newsome that drive the run game -- not Alford. I don't think it would have been any different with Wallace.
But stick to insults when you can't back up anything you say with evidence JE.
I think offensive coaching can be a collective effort. Having been in game-planning/play designing sessions in high school, everyone has their input. Michigan's run game really took off when Hart arrived in 2021. Was it because of Hart's coaching his guys? Maybe. Was it because Ed Warinner left? Maybe. Was it some other combination of factors? Maybe.
DeleteEric Bieniemy is an example of a former RB coach who became a successful coordinator.
What insult? I'll skip that distraction
DeleteRB coaches are a part of the run game design & implementation (Hart has been RGC, Wheatley too). But to answer your question:
Newland Isaac at Liberty, Studsville at Miami, and I believe Kyle Shanahan started off as a RB Coach
Eric Bieniemy is an excellent example Thunder.
DeletePerhaps Wallace will ascend down a similar path. I think that sort of trajectory is very rare for RB coaches. It is commonly accepted that that position coach is more heavily focused on recruiting than most of the other positions and certainly the coordinator/head coach level.
Nobody is sitting here saying RB coaches are irrelevant and have no input. That's another strawman.
Wheatley, Hart, and Alford have all struggled with getting promotions that they would like and maybe that's unfair to them. I think it's because RB coaches don't usually do much more than offer some "input" to the decision-makers and primary influencers on the offenses success. My suggestion to them would be to coach another position group to prove yourself but they haven't done that except for Wheatley who had to go down many levels of football to get the opportunity he wanted.
No disrespect intended.
@JE
DeleteDisrespect intended - your example sucks, as usual.
Kyle Shannahan's resume:
As a coach:
UCLA (2003)
Graduate assistant
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2004–2005)
Offensive quality control coach
Houston Texans (2006)
Wide receivers coach
Houston Texans (2007)
Quarterbacks coach
Houston Texans (2008–2009)
Offensive coordinator
Washington Redskins (2010–2013)
Offensive coordinator
Cleveland Browns (2014)
Offensive coordinator
Atlanta Falcons (2015–2016)
Offensive coordinator
San Francisco 49ers (2017–present)
Head coach
I googled Studesville because I don't know who he is (which should tell you how far you are stretching to try to prove me wrong). But even when you try you fail.
Eric Studesville was a DC back in 1994. He was a DB in college and then a WR coach and assistant special teams coach with the Bears in 1999 and 2000.
The point here was not that RB is a dead end job for everyone who ever had it -- it was that if that RB coaches don't tend to have a lot of influence on play calling and don't tend to get a lot of credit for offensive success. The fact that it took Eric Studesville 20 years (!!!) of coaching the RB position in the NFL to ascend to get one season of co-offensive coordinator duties (before losing it again) is an argument in support of MY point.
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From his wiki page:
DeleteStudesville had retained his position as running backs coach under four different head coaches: Josh McDaniels, John Fox, Gary Kubiak, and Vance Joseph. On January 17, 2018, the Miami Dolphins hired Studesville as running backs coach under head coach Adam Gase, whom Studesville worked alongside at the Denver Broncos from 2010–2014.[12] The team announced on February 8, 2019, that they were retaining Studesville as the team's running backs coach despite the firing of Adam Gase as head coach and the hiring of Brian Flores in that role.[13] Studesville received an additional title of co-offensive coordinator on March 11, 2021.[14] Despite the Dolphins' struggles for much of Studesville's tenure, he has survived 3 coaching changes (Adam Gase, Brian Flores, and Mike McDaniel).
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Studesville career has been in neutral for 20 years even though he's clearly an ELITE RB coach respected by multitudes of head coaches.
This is what tends to happen with RB coaches. We see it with Alford, Hart, and Wheatley. There's a reason for that.
It's the same reason that construction workers don't tend to become engineers or CEOs and guys who don't graduate from high school tend to give dxxbaxx opinions on the internet. Well - at least the first one.
It's not the job. That's not the skills needed to be successful at a different job. So it doesn't build you up to the next step. People don't watch you do THAT job, even if you're crushing it, and think "I should promote them to do a different job". A construction worker CAN be a CEO! Some guys who worked construction HAVE become CEOs! -- but those guys have to be extraordinary and find other/different opportunities on a different path for themselves or they'll be asked to keep doing well what they are doing well.
Sure - they can give input (let's do this different, let's be efficient) but nobody is going to ask a construction worker to draw up engineering plans or change company strategy because he "provided input" sometimes.
I'm making a general statement about most RB coaches, not every single one ever. I don't expect Alford to affect our play calling or strategies very much and I doubt that MIke Hart had much affect on our play calling or strategies. Some? Sure. Much? Well you'd think those guys were moving up in the world more if they deserved a lot of credit for the success.
So ... LyinLank is at it again. You asked for examples, and I answered ... now you want to lie, and then distract with false equivalencirs regarding construction workers
Delete- Wheatley has gone from RB Coach to HC
- Hart has gone from RB Coach to Assoc HC and RGC at two P5 schools
- Isaac has gone from RB Coach to Co-OC
- Studsville has gone from RB Coach to RGC, OC and Assoc Head Coach ...
*receipt below, stop don't lying
You should instead hang onto "I believe Shanahan ... "
https://www.miamidolphins.com/team/coaches-roster/eric-studesville
You're arguing with yourself again JE. I brought up Wheatley as an example to prove my point. How he struggled to ascend from where he was in 2013 (NFL RB coach) to where he was in 2022 (NFL RB Coach) and the only way he had to ascend was to go from the NFL to the GLIAC or MEAC. Which is not ascending since a lot of HCs in those leagues would rather be NFL position coaches, in part because the pay is generally a lot more.
DeleteStudsville is an NFL RB coach now in 2023 and he was an NFL RB coach in 2001 as well. Hang your hat on the title if you want but you and I both know he was a RB coach and is still a RB coach. The Miami Dolphins playcalling was done by Mike McDaniel. The guy being pushed to replace him is Frank Smith the OC. STudsville is not even in the conversation. Because...he's a RB coach.
Hart was a college RB coach in 2012 and in 2023 he was... a college RB coach. At least he's climbed the ladder from EMU to Michigan but he's still a RB coach.
Thunder replied with a thoughtful example that is PROOF that RB coaches can elevate their roles - to meaningfully develop and execute schemes, not just players.
You? You're bringing up a bunch of examples that are flag out wrong (Shanahan) or examples of NFL RB coaches who are stuck. Stuck doing the same job for decades like Fred Jackson (who also got honorary title bumps along the way but is still at Michigan coaching RBs just like he was 30 years ago).
There's exceptions out there and Thunder demonstrated that. You - well, you're you. Everytime.
Newland Issac was a WR who has coached RBs and WRs. He was also an offensive coordinator 2017 and has been a co-OC at multiple places, elevating up along the way. Like Matt Weiss, he's not "just" a RB coach. He's a good bet to continue to move up the ladder.
DeleteHart and Alford are not - unless they are willing to take a big step down in level of competition to take on bigger on-field responsibilities than RB coach. Hart is rumored to be leaving Michigan because he wasn't getting opportunity beyond the RB spot. Meanwhile the TE coach moved to OL to OC to HC in a few years.
RB coaches tend to be focused on personnel (e.g., recruiting) more than other position coaches. Other position coaches tend to be more focused on scheme. That's why you can see a guy like Fred Jackson stick around from Carr to Rich Rodriguez. He's not calling plays. He's not integral to the scheme. He's there to teach kids to not fumble, block, and execute the OC's playcall.
Maybe Wallace is another Bienemy, but the assumption that whatever run game success Kansas has is attributable to him (rather than Liepold or Kotelnicki) is pretty dubious given the trajectory of the vast majority of RB coaches.
You can duck dodge all you want JE and try to change the topic to who got title bumps while still being a RB coach. You can tell yourself how smart you are while you argue with yourself bringing up examples that prove you wrong (maybe you outsmarted yourself LOL) but you'll fool nobody. You're bad at this.
Delete*reposted, since last time this was removed
Now the goalpost is at 'he was more than a RB Coach ... ' and 'no, don't just look at their job titles ... '
This is why anything written by Lank should be read with skepticism ... in addition to trying to relitigate Milton (by lying), Lank is denying fact & trying to reinvent the discussion
I provided FOUR examples, but Lank is denying his L. Studsville has in fact been promoted to coordinator & AHC. Lank wants to credit McDaniel (more on him later), while praising thunder's example (Bienemy), whose successs has been limited to work under Andy Reid? Zero consistency; no integrity
Well, guess what? McDaniel was a RB Coach too ... hattip to dude at my "rec center," who randomly brought up knowing McDaniel back when he coached with the Sacramento Mountain Lions. FIVE examples now ...
https://www.miamidolphins.com/team/coaches-roster/mike-mcdaniel
The court of appeals has made its decision, Lank: you lost to a guy with a Detroit Public Schools education, AGAIN
#caseclosed
Lost on what? Your fantasy? You can't win an argument so you have to make up things I say. Twist or lie.
DeleteYou provided a bunch of examples of RB coaches who are still RB coaches. LOL. And a head coach who was never a RB coach. LOL. The best example you can muster is a guy who want from the NFL to the GLAC.
Sorry JE - but Thunder's example has you beat.
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McDaniel is like Weiss -- he did a bunch of stuff and moved up. McDaniels' RB coach is a RB coach...and has been for pretty much all his career.
You want it sooooooooooooo bad. You're stretching so hard. But you can't have it.
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Facts, quotes, links <------- my argument
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Another case closed. You lost again. JEverytime.
Shhhh ... your lies make you look worse
DeleteI'll take a guy with insight into Urban's run game too. Particularly when he's a stone cold grown up brought into a very young staff, and a powerhouse recruiter to boot.
ReplyDeleteRoanman
Nope, only Urban Meyer understands his run schemes
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Can weigh the run game success under Meyer with the lack of it under Day. Alford was there for both. Which way is the causality or is there none?
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