Sunday, January 28, 2024

Sherrone Moore, Head Coach

 

Sherrone Moore

Former Michigan offensive coordinator Sherrone Moore was elevated to head coach on Friday. This followed shortly after it was announced that Jim Harbaugh had spurned Michigan's contract talks and accepted the Los Angeles Chargers' head coaching position.

Hit the jump for more.


Moore has been on Michigan's staff since 2018, when he began as a tight ends coach. He held that position through 2020, after which he took over the offensive line position group from Ed Warinner. Moore was also co-offensive coordinator in 2021-2022 before taking on the offensive coordinator role in 2023.

Moore was an offensive lineman at Butler Community College and at Oklahoma before embarking on a coaching career that included stints at Louisville (2012-2013) and Central Michigan (2014-2017).

Harbaugh had been mentioning Moore as a future head coach for a few years, and Moore was hand-picked to coach Michigan's final three regular season games in 2023 while Harbaugh was suspended. Moore also coached a game early in the year when Harbaugh served his first suspension of the year, so he's 4-0 as an acting head coach already, including wins over Penn State and Ohio State.

There will almost certainly be a decline in Michigan's performance from Harbaugh to Moore. Despite being 4-0 as an acting head coach on Saturdays, Harbaugh was still involved with the team during the week while he was serving those suspensions. Harbaugh is a proven commodity at various stops and just won a national title, and chances are slim that Michigan can maintain that level of success - three straight Big Ten championships and three straight top four finishes - for much longer, if at all. That doesn't mean Moore will be a bad coach, but eventually, everyone comes back down to Earth at some point.

On a personal note, I'm maybe rooting for Moore a little more than some. Back during the 2020 pandemic, I attended a bunch of Zoom clinics for coaches since nobody could actually get together in person. I signed up for a clinic with Moore regarding tight end play. He offered up his email address and said attendees could reach out to him, which I did with a couple questions; he responded politely, answered my questions, and offered to be of further assistance. There are some FBS coaches who will big-time high school coaches, but Moore didn't pass it off to a GA or ignore the communication.

Even though Moore seemed to be the choice of both Harbaugh and athletic director Warde Manuel from the start, a few other coaches were suggested as possible considerations, including defensive coordinator Jesse Minter - who is also leaving for the NFL - and coaches like LSU's Brian Kelly, Washington/Alabama's Kalen DeBoer, and Kansas's Lance Leipold. I have very little interest in Kelly heading up the Michigan program, but I think DeBoer and Leipold would both be solid options. Both guys have won wherever they have gone. Personally, I would have gone for DeBoer (49 years old) over Leipold (59) because of the longevity factor; Leipold is just one year younger than Harbaugh.

In order to fill out his staff, Moore will need to get to work on finding a new offensive coordinator to replace himself; a new defensive coordinator to replace Minter; a new linebackers coach to replace Rick Minter/Chris Partridge; and perhaps some other significant staff members.

Moore is the first black head football coach at the University of Michigan, which is both noteworthy . . . and not noteworthy. On the one hand, I'm glad the leaders at Michigan didn't let race get in the way, which should be expected. On the other hand, I think the most qualified guy deserves the job, regardless of race. Moore just happens to be the top choice of Harbaugh, Manuel, and most of the players.

This marks the first internal promotion of a head coach since Lloyd Carr took over from Gary Moeller in 1995. In the meantime, Michigan hired West Virginia head coach Rich Rodriguez in 2007, San Diego State head coach Brady Hoke in 2011, and San Francisco 49ers head coach Harbaugh in 2015.

46 comments:

  1. Interesting to see if Grant Newsome gets to move over to the offensive line.

    Wondering also if Hart gets a sniff at OC. Nobody much mentions his name for the job, as it's mostly only Campbell in the conversation, but he does already hold the title of Run Game Coordinator.

    The guy I would not like to lose under any set of circumstances is Ellston. Is he a coordinator type? I Dunno.

    And ... Clinkscale is already holding the title of Co-DC

    And ... Ben Herbert holds the title, Associate Head Coach. Thinking that that won't change. Actually, really, really hoping that that won't change. Wishing on a star ...

    If it's me, Hart and Campbell as Co-OCs, Newsome to the OL, Bellamy to Safeties, Jay Harbaugh back to Tight Ends and Special Teams.

    Then, in a move that won't surprise Thunder none, I'd go get me another Campbell to coach Wide Receivers, Erik (Soup). He's not as old as I thought at 58. Pretty sure he'd come even though Delaware has those awesome looking helmets, specifically designed to assist the QB in finding his receivers downfield in the passing game.

    Voila'. All we need now is a Linebacker coach. Sigh ... Chris Partridge ... bonehead.

    Big ... huge ... raises for everyone, please!!!!!

    Roanman

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    1. Well, Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    2. Uh, no

      While I'm sure it's more likely than not that promotions will come from within, my hope is that our young HC begins to build his own program: Elston is probably gone, and Clink has just as much Ravens Defense experience (3yrs) as we could hope for. He & the players on that side know the deal. If anyone gets promoted, he's my preference

      Newsome would be second for me, but Moore should still look around. I hope he looks around

      No to Campbell & even Hart unless Moore 1oo% knows one or both is the best in the nation ... with the new B1G, he'll need the best. We should also consider that we're losing 1o starters on Offense; now is the best time to inject Moore's philosophy on that side of the ball

      S&C is another. I think promoting the other guy signals where we're headed: 2o24 is 2o23 minus the best DC in the Nation, a dozen NFL players (incl our best ever QB, OL & RB), the best S&C guy in the nation, and our first outright NC winning Head Coach in the modern era. HUGE dropoff

      Am I wrong? Perhaps, but last year we were all confident about our options at LT & Center because of Moore's OL depth ... Jim went out and got 3 guys from the portal. Competition breeds success, and THE TEAM, THE TEAM, THE TEAM means the program, not favoritism toward any one individual

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    3. With Herbert gone I think Clinksdale is probably the most important guy to retain right now, though Elston might be right there given the DL being in the personnel position it's in. Our starters are rumored to be getting close to a million dollars to jump ship and somebody has to be giving these kids a reason to not fall to temptation.

      On offense I think Campbell and Newsome are valued young guys - the type you really want to keep and promote. Hart sounds like he's out the door. I like Hart of course because he's a charismatic ex-player but RB coaches are rarely irreplaceable. Fred Jackson is still around to mentor whoever is in that chair.

      Sherrone has a real challenge on his hands of retaining staff who want a promotion while at the same time bringing in people to replace a whole lot of expertise and knowledge in Harbaugh, Minter, and Herbert. OSU is hiring former NFL coaches and Alabama coordinators to build up their expertise. Sherrone may not have cashed his big new check just yet but it's time to get to work.

      If I was in Sherrone's shoes I'd be looking to add at least one trusted veteran voice (perhaps someone like Minter senior). I know he's been with Harbaugh for a few years but he's still a first time HC with a lot on his plate. Maybe these days you have analysts doing that for you. Too bad Poggi is otherwise engaged.

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  2. Then ... I think we should be able to recruit somewhat better than we have under Harbaugh as the never ending drumbeat about Jim Harbaugh to the NFL has finally come true. Moore ain't going anywhere soon except out on the trail.

    I wish Warde could somehow just ascend to the ceremonial position he is qualified to fill and quit making comments that include the words NIL and non transactional in the same sentence. Just sayin'.

    Roanman

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    1. 1oo! Retain the ability to find diamonds in the rough, but get back in the fight for the few difference makers

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    2. Hot take - we had the best recruiting class in the country last year.

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    3. The 2o24 class? How would you quantify that

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    4. The 2023 class. I would quantify it by number of starters, all conference players, draft choices, etc. Definitely NOT with starz because those are just projections.

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    5. The 2024 class isn't finished yet.

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    6. 2o23 I can mostly agree with, but wouldn't want to rely on the good fortunes of Mason, Grant & Loveland turning out to be closer 5stars ... That doesn't happen often, anywhere. Also, missing on a QB is already hurting

      I'm saying we need the 3-4 difference makers in every class. Then some solid guys who need time. Fill in roster gaps & increase depth/competition with the portal

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    7. We won a national title a few weeks ago so I'm going to say that "missing on a QB is already hurting" is a premature statement. 7 months to go in this offseason still...

      The point I'm making is that the 2023 class was awesome thanks principally to Nugent, Henderson, Barner, Stewart, Wallace, and Turner.

      20th in the nation? Please. That's 5 starters on a championship with Hinton, Hausman, Morgan and more on the way in 2024 and beyond.

      Would you rather have our class or #1 Alabama's? I'll take our 3 and 4 stars and the natty and let them enjoy their offseason starz crown.

      Or how about OSU's #4 ranked class? I'm sure eventually they'll have some all conference caliber NFL players like AJ Barner out of it - they already got Igbinosun - but they took the same number of portal guys we did and got about 1/10th of the benefit. Our high school class may not end up quite as accomplished as theirs but so what -- given what our portal guys did they have a mountain to climb over the next 3 or 4 years to get there.

      ...Only a handful of them will still be on the roster by then anyway so shrug emoji let them have it.

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    8. I know we won the National Title, I was there

      I didn't know you were talking about HS recruiting & Portal combined. With that caveat, I think it's a fair take, not even hot. But, combining the two has its limitations, as in only half our 23 portal takes are returning, and none were permanent starters

      I'm not sure how waiting another 7mos is going to change our empty 2o23 QB class, but okay





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    9. What other kind of recruiting is there?! We aren't Clemson. Every program is bringing guys in via both channels. It'd be like evaluating an NFL teams offseason on their draft while ignoring free agency comings and goings. Nothing wrong with draft grades or whatever but we all know there's a bigger picture.

      Our class was ranked 20th in the nation which is a joke. It should have been #1.

      How the next 7 months could change things should be pretty obvious given the above. Ducks just landed a starting corner from their rival. SMU's starting center just entered the portal. There will be hundreds of players moving in the next 7 months and there's a decent chance one of them will be a Michigan QB.

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    10. How is the 2023 QB recruit situation hurting us right now?

      The portal is open and we have a bevvy of internal candidates ready to compete for the job. Plus a fairly high ranked freshman in '24. You may not like the players on the roster, and I have agreed with you that we can do better via transfer, but taking a guy just to take a guy in 2023 class wouldn't change this calculus in any meaningful way.

      If we had landed our top target Dante Moore in '23 we would be in the same situation. Or he would have transferred to a different program than the one he committed to out of High School.

      We are not hurting. You are projecting us to be hurting because you don't like Orji or Denegal and don't know what is coming from the portal yet.

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    11. How come when we agree, you have to create a disagreement? Is it desperation? Loneliness?

      I said I didn't know we were combining the two ... NO ONE lumps in FA market with draft results. If you want to call it roster management, then this would apply

      The Ducks transfer wins THIS year do not count toward their HS recruiting class LAST year. So again, let's call it roster management to be clear, and even agree

      Who said I didn't like our roster? That's strawman (again). We don't have a Moore/Davis/fill-in-4star to COMPETE with Denegal (only garbage time snaps) and Orji (only one pass in 29games), making a late portal addition a MUST

      If we can keep from misleading, agreement exists

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    12. Every accusation is a confession.

      Let me prove each of your statements wrong on the substance of their merits. With evidence. The only question real question is not if you are wrong it's if you're lying or being ignorant. You don't have to pick between the two - it's rhetorical.

      "NO ONE lumps in FA market with draft results"
      https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-grading-all-32-nfl-offseasons-2023

      The Ducks 2024 recruiting class including portal guys (like the Washington CB) and high school guys. Same as in 2023.

      https://247sports.com/college/oregon/Season/2024-Football/Commits/

      "We don't have a Moore/Davis/fill-in-4star to COMPETE with Denegal (only garbage time snaps) and Orji (only one pass in 29games), making a late portal addition a MUST".

      Lots of words to say we have 3 viable candidates for QB (plus Warren) but you'd just prefer to have more. Nothing about 2023 QB recruiting whatsoever.

      So I'll ask the question you dodged again. How is this already a problem?

      It's not - it's about your feelings. My advice to you is chill out and let it play out. There's 7 months to go till the season starts and we don't have to create fake problems when real problems are both present now and more on the way.

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    13. Your PFF article is not solely about The Draft, but Roster Management in general. The Ducks class is broken down in two LABELED parts: HS & Transfers ... YOUR evidence supports MY post

      Three VIABLE candidates? What's their value in the portal? How would you quantify that? Denegal might get a MAC offer. Orji would almost certainly switch positions if he wanted to remain in the P5. In 29 games, neither has been trusted as a passer in a meaningful snap


      We agree that Moore will go to the Portal for a QB, but I'm worried? So bad at this

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    14. "Your PFF article is not solely about The Draft, but Roster Management in general."

      Yes JE. That was the point. ""NO ONE lumps in FA market with draft results". This article was "lumping" the two things -- which is what most offseason assessments do. This is obvious, but some people just want to argue and get attention.

      Your assertion that portal is not recruiting -- "let's call it roster management to be clear" -- is countered by the fact that both are included in the recruiting class that I linked. The RECRUITING SITES consider this recruiting. Because, again, it obviously is. You want to use a different word than the industry uses you go right on ahead but you can know that's just about you.

      "Denegal might get a MAC offer."
      I remember when you thought less of another Michigan QB after 2 seasons. That guy started at Tennesse, got a senior bowl invite, and is projected to be drafted by the NFL. Grading on this curve, Denegal is on a Heisman track.

      Denegal got a power 5 offer already -- from Jim Harbaugh no less. But JE knows better than JH I guess.

      "Orji would almost certainly switch positions if he wanted to remain in the P5". Let's just keep the Wrong Train full speed ahead. You said this 2 years ago when he was recruited and he's widely projected to not only stay at QB in year 3 but potentially be starter. This is the guy who played meaningful snaps as a QB in the national championship game, the rose bowl, the big ten championship, and against OSU and MSU. But you think he has to change positions to play in P5 still. Alrighty!

      I personally wouldn't be surprised if he changed positions someday for all the reasons everyone has speculated on since he got here but... given your confidence in the matter and your proclivity for being dead wrong on most things, well that makes me think the kid might just win the dang job and thrive.

      We don't "already see the problem" at QB because there is no problem here. Not now. Not yet. Not with the 2023 recruiting class. We don't see any problems happening because we just went from JJ McCarthy to the offseason that is more than 6 months from being over. We both agree that Michigan should anticipate an issue (that could be there) and we both agree they should hit the portal to strengthen the position. I think that at pretty much every position, personally. I'm frustrated Sherrone isn't tapping the portal for a bunch of positions.

      So we can agree on the big picture (portal QB is a good idea) without making claims about already having problems and attributing them to 2023 QB recruiting.

      Again, Michigan could have landed it's top target at QB in 2023 and the situation would be the same. We'd have a bunch of VIABLE candidates but no sure things.

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    15. Good, you agree: your article separates the two. I am as well, because obviously

      You're in denial. Denegal or Orji behind Center is 4, maybe more losses. I know you accept mediocrity, defend RR and excuse a DL with Jess Speight, Ben Mason & Jordan MF Glasgow, but our returning players want more than that, and so should fans

      They want another ship, and should be put in position to earn it

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    16. "Denegal or Orji behind Center is 4, maybe more losses"
      This is loser thinking. I sure hope the team doesn't think like this! Tearing down their teammates on message boards? Just garbage behavior.

      Oh wait -- YOU'RE NOT ON THE TEAM JE. There is no problem here because you're allowed to think differently than the team. As a fan you are SUPPOSED to think differently than them. Next time you call someone out for not thinking like a player when they give their fan opinion remember this one and try not to be a total hypocrite.

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    17. More relevant to the argument -- And how many wins and losses is Michigan gonna have if Dante Moore is behind center? What about 2023 QB recruiting is going to change that?

      You can want what you want. I want ONE QUOTE and ONE FACT where you win ONE ARGUMENT. Good luck.

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    18. ""NO ONE lumps in FA market with draft results".

      Here they are lumped in together by PFF.

      https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-grading-all-32-nfl-offseasons-2023

      "your article separates the two."

      Not only were you wrong, but you got proved wrong with a quote and a fact and a link, but then you compound it by lying to yourself. The only word here is denial.

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    19. Loser thinking, lol ... what's that say about your outlook for Moore?

      It's a prediction Lank, relax. If Jim Harbaugh thought more of Denegal, he'd have gotten more than the handful of garbage time snaps; if Orji had made reasonable progress as a passer, he'd be more than a gimmick guy. I trust the coaches more than your feelings


      This article is not solely on the draft ... it's about overall roster management, from the end of the previous season to the start of the next

      Reeeaching or Lyin?

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    20. I distinguish my opinions and predictions from players in the program. Always. There is no confusion in my takes because I'm not confused between those who do and those who watch.

      You are ... one minute you're conflating player/fan perspectives and the next you're denigrating players on the message board. Confused AF.

      Orji is just a gimmick guy eh? I think you're forgetting that Harbaugh had future starters be primarily runners multiple times. McCaffrey, Milton, and McCarthy all got used as run first "gimmick" players. My bad, I included McCaffrey - who never started at Michigan because Milton sent him packing.

      The article evaluates offseasons in total. It is discussing both draft and signings and making a grade based on both. Which directly contradicts what you said. "NO ONE lumps in FA market with draft results". PFF does. You were wrong but you'll lie and yell I AM RIGHT like always. The truth hurts you too much.

      https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-grading-all-32-nfl-offseasons-2023

      Lumped in the thing you said no one does -- PFF does it.

      You were wrong and now you are lying. JEverytime.

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    21. Your predictions are based on the young men who play the game, right? LyinLank, tryin to pull a fast one!

      "grading off-season..." it does not say "grading the draft," and then lump on FA

      It's YOUR article ... you lost, again. I was right

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    22. Is the draft part of the offseason? Is free agency part of the offseason? Do they give 1 offseason grade or two?

      I'll answer for you -- it's one grade. One grade that covers both things, lumped together.

      Here is how you do it.

      quote:
      "NO ONE lumps in FA market with draft results".
      proof:
      https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-grading-all-32-nfl-offseasons-2023
      result:
      You are wrong.


      Hold your L competitor. You don't have to tell anyone at the suburban rec center, dont worry.

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    23. is it an off-season piece? YES

      did they call it a draft piece? NO

      It's an off-season grade, taking two different aspects and assigning a grade

      another L for LYINLANK

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    24. "NO ONE lumps in FA market with draft results".

      "It's an off-season grade, taking two different aspects and assigning a grade"

      Same guy! LOL

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    25. Did they call it a draft piece? NO

      Case closed!

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    26. LOL. Not even you believe you. Here's a recap of the conversation since you can't keep it straight.

      Me: "It'd be like evaluating an NFL teams OFFSEASON on their draft while ignoring free agency comings and goings. Nothing wrong with draft grades or whatever but we all know there's a bigger picture."

      You: ""NO ONE lumps in FA market with draft results"."

      Me: "Here is a link to PFF that lumps those 2 things together to evaluate offseason - that thing you said nobody does"

      You: "It's an off-season grade, taking two different aspects and assigning a grade"

      Me: Exactly. That's what I said in the first place. You argued with it.

      Not even you believe you.

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    27. "diD tHey CaLl it A dRafT pIeCe?"

      No JE, they didn't. They called it an OFFSEASON piece which was the point that I made.

      You never have a quote! This is why. You just make up your own fake argument as if I said "draft articles don't talk about free agency" LOL.

      That's what you are arguing with -- but no one ever said that - not once. It's another one of your Lank fantasies. That's why I challenge you to find a quote. You never do.

      Hey look you said "case closed" and yet here we are. Not even you believe you.

      On top of all that - it's a dodge. You ignore the fact that rivals evaluates both portal recruiting and high school recruiting and combines them to evaluate recruiting overall. You want to try to deflect to a tangential topic and you STILL take the L. The L cherry on top.

      Hold them up high competitor.

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  3. It's not going to be an easy job. I agree Moore is the right guy but Jim Harbaugh is a tough act to follow.

    The landscape is changing quickly and Moore is seemingly starting from a good place. For now anyway, he needs to weather the storm of the offseason turnover with most of the roster in tact. Even in an optimistic scenario though, I'm not sure Michigan isn't starting off behind 3 other programs (OSU, Oregon, PSU) who are stable and ramping up for 2024.

    Next few weeks should will set the tone for the Moore era and should be telling.

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    1. Exactly. I don't buy the third base tags with regard to Coach Moore. CFB is uncharted waters, even compared to Day's first year in 2o19 ... Moore is an incredibly tough position, and I hope the AD is putting their rainy day fund into supporting their new guy. All In Warde, ALL IN

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    2. The silly part about the third base comments is that it all depends on how you act. It doesn't apply to just ANYONE who's in a good situation to start.

      Yes, it applies to millionaire children who think they're successful just because their daddy has money. No, it doesn't apply to millionaire children who respect working hard for their money and being kind to other people, realizing they have inherent advantages that others don't have.

      Jim Harbaugh was "born on third base." He's white, male, had a dad who was a well respected football coach, and had enough athletic ability to be a Heisman finalist, 1st round draft pick, and NFL starter.

      Harbaugh doesn't act like he hit a triple. He's not afraid of the hard work involved with being successful. You can see that with his mission work, washing dishes on recruiting visits, pushing sleds at practice, etc.

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    3. Nice or not, appreciative or not, how you act doesn't change if you're born on third or you got there yourself.

      You're absolutely right Thunder - that Harbaugh was born on 3rd in the grand scheme of things. But he didn't inherit a top 5 program coming off 3 straight years in the playoffs. Moore and Day are in the same boat in that regard.

      So in that sense I think the 3rd base tag fits for Sherrone. He should own it IMO - the program is in a pretty good place in terms of resources, facilities, and prestige right now.

      Does that mean it's an easy job? -- absolutely not. In some ways it's harder because expectations are high.

      You don't get a pat on the back for getting on base unless you're starting from the batter's box. If you're stepping in to pinch run -- It's all about getting home and people will treat you accordingly.

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  4. The only way a non-Moore coach move might have worked is if they had a home-run guy in the wings ready to announce the moment Harbaugh said he was leaving. Any kind of extended coaching search would have been a disaster. So hiring Moore was the right thing given the circumstances, and I think he will do pretty well.

    Expectations do need to be tempered, however. The chances of him going undefeated next year are practically zero. The chances of him having the team ready to go undefeated in the next few years is probably near zero. We're in for some multi-loss years, and by that I mean a floor of 8-4 and a more likely 9-3 or 10-2 outcome.

    I hope Moore has a trusted mentor or advisor he can go to for keeping his head on straight during the next few months. Moore has some big tasks in front of him to preserve what he can, and build upon the holes that appear. I hope he knows how to delegate and trust, because he's going to need to do that.

    Moore is not alone in being in a tough place in a bright spotlight: DeBoer at Alabama is going to be under a microscope; Fisch up at Washington will be as well. I think Harbaugh at the Chargers is under some scrutiny as well, as the current narrative is he's a miracle turnaround guy. If that doesn't happen in 2024, there'll be questions.

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    1. For the long term, I think it's more important to get the right guy and not hire the immediate guy. If it took them two months to hire Kyle Shanahan because Shanahan was on his way to winning the Super Bowl, fine. If you hire Steve Clinkscale just because he's available right now, that might be a mistake.

      I think Moore might be the right guy, but only time will tell. Jim Harbaugh has a pretty good feel for coaches, so if he thinks Moore is the right guy, I'm inclined to believe him. Harbaugh doesn't surround himself with losers.

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    2. In light of the recent past of Michigan football in the post-Carr years, I think the idea of going outside the program and taking on the risk of a seismic change, as opposed to a evolutionary change, was not an appealing one. Michigan might have made a few phone calls, but I doubt they had the appetite to roll the dice on someone else. The "expected value" of Moore was higher than that of someone else where the uncertainties created potentially greater downsides.

      I don't know for a fact, but I'd be willing to bet that Saban's decision to retire was not a sudden one: he had planned to retire after this season, and the AD at Alabama had time to do some background work. I'm guessing DeBoer was going to Alabama before the game with Michigan was played.

      Long term ... sure, you'd love to bring in the next Saban or Meyer and have a nice 10-year run with him, but nothing is for certain. I'm not convinced DeBoer is going to be the sure-fire thing some tout him to be.

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    3. Saban may have told his AD he was retiring, but I don't think DeBoer was signed, sealed, and delivered to Alabama before that. From what I understand, Alabama was sent on a search for a new coach after Saban retired, and DeBoer was at least #3 on the list behind Dan Lanning and Steve Sarkisian. I think DeBoer had his eye more on Michigan if Harbaugh went to the NFL, but the timing didn't work out.

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    4. Some of the coaching search stuff is straight up BS. I think for those of us who watched the M searches very closely we heard a lot of garbage from national sources in particular.

      I like Kalen Deboer and think he's a solid hire but some of these hot names of the moments are passing fads. Think through some of the recent michigan drama and you've seen big time duds like Les Miles, Josh McDaniels, Dan Mullen, and of course everybody's favorite Matt Campbell LOL. Coaching hires are hard, as we learned with Rich Rodriguez and (gulp) Juwan Howard.

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    5. I don't know who fans expected to hire. Moore is the best fit, and he's qualified. Throw in the Harbaugh endorsement, and I couldn't imagine a better hire in 2024

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    6. Speaking of Dan Mullen -- he might make a pretty good OC for Sherrone if he wants to get back into coaching. He's overqualified, sure, but Alabama has been rotating through overqualified coordinators for years and it might be a pretty nice gig with Loveland, Edwards, and (hopefully) a strong OL already in place across from a (potentially) dominant D.

      Something for you to consider Dan, as you read TTB in your spare time.

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    7. Love the idea of hiring Dan Mullen. I do not know if his offensive philosophy is the same as Moore’s but if they are similar, why not.

      On defense, I would like to Moore to consider hiring one of Belichick’s son. Belichick Sr is a great defensive guru and since I doubt the father is available, why not hire the son and implement the father’s playbook?

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    8. I'm not a fan of Dan Mullen as a person. I think he would probably come in and screw up the chemistry. I don't see him getting along with a 37-year-old first-time head coach. You have to be very careful about those kinds of hires when you're in Moore's position.

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    9. Agree Thunder about using caution. If you're hiring a more veteran or qualified person to be beside/below Sherrone, there absolutely has to be a level of trust that often requires some previous relationship. That may not exist here - I'm just throwing a name out that maybe relevant if Orji is the starter as currently projected by many.

      If not Mullen, perhaps Sherrone has others who he does trust (or trusts via a Harbaugh endorsement).

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