Name: Jyaire Hill
Height: 6’2″
Weight: 190 lbs.
High school: Kankakee (IL) Kankakee
Position: Cornerback
Class: Redshirt sophomore
Jersey number: #20
Last year: I ranked Hill #20 and said he would be a starting cornerback with 25 tackles and 2 interceptions (LINK). He started nine games and made 35 tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss, 1 sack, 1 interception, and 9 pass breakups.
TTB Rating: 88
Hill had an odd season in 2024. It was both a breakout season and an odd season. He became a starter for the first time, making nine starts in a defensive backfield that had Will Johnson, Zeke Berry, and Aamir Hall. The season included his first career interception, a very nice play against Minnesota.
And then against Northwestern, he didn't start, played only seven snaps, and wore #35 in what appeared to be a disciplinary move. It's not often that a player changes numbers for a single game, but the whispers behind the scenes for the past couple years have been that Hill is extremely talented but still has some work to do with the choices he makes.
Can Hill take that next step in 2025? He should be a starter at cornerback, and he reportedly took steps forward last year with his preparation. With a good season this fall, he could potentially jump to the NFL. But if those questions persist and NFL general managers are concerned, he might have to spend another year in college in 2026. So this could be a giant swing year for Hill, and if he can lock down opposing receivers, he could be a hugely valuable asset for the Wolverines.
Prediction: Starting cornerback; 40 tackles, 2 interceptions
Big time talent, NFL body, CB1 lock down ability. Big swing in team results if he lives up to his talent and stays focused and disciplined vs continuing to make mental mistakes. Definitely deserves a top 10 spot on this list just for his upside. My guess is he hits on it and heads for NFL after the season - round 1 or 2. He saw what Will Johnson could do and how he did it.
ReplyDeleteHopefully he is health all year because while there's talent beyond Berry/Hill but nobody really proven or reliable. Not clear there's any net.
Floor is getting disciplined again and missing time. Ceiling is all american. Wide range means high value in this countdown.
Man, just a baller at times and frustrating at others
ReplyDeleteI can see having CB1 in the top1o or even top2o. But the reality is, we lost Will early last year, and then Jyaire got into trouble. Our Defense not only played well, but surged ... maybe Cornerback doesn't matter? Nah, that's goofy
CB might be the closest analog to RB on the defensive side of the ball. It used to be LB but I think this has evolved. It could also be safety. Probably depends a bit on scheme but you don't necessarily need elite talent or playmaking if you're a DB making reads and dropping into zones.
DeleteOffense and defense are fundamentally different though because the QB plays such a massive role. Defense is more about the weakest link. Among the starting 22 it's the RB that are least important (with TE not far ahead.) NFL salaries illustrate the point.
Kicker is still below RB but the gap might be narrowing.
Take AI for what it's worth but this is it's concise summary of positional value:
General Salary Tiers by Position:
Quarterback: Top players can earn $50 million or more annually.
Edge Rusher & Defensive Tackle: These positions are also highly compensated, with top earners in the $30-$40 million range.
Wide Receiver & Offensive Lineman: Top players in these positions also earn significant salaries, with recent top earners exceeding $40 million for a wide receiver and $28 million for an offensive lineman.
Cornerback & Linebacker: Top players can also see salaries in the $20 million range or higher.
Safety, Running Back, Tight End: These positions have a wider range of salaries, with top players earning in the high single-digit or low double-digit millions.
Kicker, Punter, Long Snapper, Fullback: These specialist roles typically have the lowest average salaries, often in the low single-digit millions.
MAN IF ONLY I HAD AN EXAMPLE OF A CB GOING MISSING AND THE DEFENSE COLLAPSING. SIGH....
Deletehttps://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401247309
https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401247324
LOL. AMBRY THOMAS SITS OUT AND WE'RE DOWN TO GRAY/GREEN AT CB TO THE POINT THAT ROTATION IS COMPLETELY ABANDONED BY INDIANA. PAIGE AS A TRUE FRESHMAN THROWN INTO TOP 5.
https://mgoblog.com/content/preview-2020-cornerback
https://touch-the-banner.com/2020-season-countdown-2-ambry-thomas/
#HIU
Haha, lAnKt0bY got bored on opening weekend, with tons of good games on. Poor guy doesn't know what he's looking at, and resorts to AI
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When Ambry Thomas sat out in 2020, Michigan had essentially zero good options behind him. All the guys behind him were JAGs and inexperienced. Not only were they ho-hum recruits, but they had also never/barely played before.
DeleteHe knows. Just trolling out of boredom
Delete#lanktoby
GRAY AND TURNER PLAYED IN THE NFL. GREEN MADE NFL PRACTICE SQUADS.
DeleteTALENT WAS THERE.
THEY WERENT READY YET. THAT'S ALL, BUT ITS ENOUGH AT CB TO CAUSE A PROBLEM.
NO SUCH EXAMPLE AT RB
There are examples at running back of players not being good. The injury thing is kind of irrelevant. If you're basically saying "anybody can play well," then it doesn't really matter if the guy is playing because someone got injured or because there's no running back talent on the roster.
DeleteVincent Smith wasn't a good running back. And Michigan sucked when he played. They got better when he was relegated to a backup role in 2011 when Fitzgerald Toussaint got healthy.
You are conflating offense and defense Thunder. Michigan 2011 got better because the defense got way better with Mattison/Hoke.
DeleteThe 2011 offense got worse than 2010 offense, despite Toussaint taking on a bigger role (and Vincent Smith maintaining a huge role on the offense).
The 2010/2011 situation is actually a counterexample for RBs mattering. Toussaint played a whole lot more in 2011 yet the YPC went down from 5.6 to 5.2 and rushing TDs from 35 TDs to 31 TDS.
The offense got even worse with Toussaint in 2012 and then again in 2013. The 2013 offense was faaaaaar worse than the 2010 offense
Your example doesn't hold up because with Toussaint (the better RB overall I will grant you) the offense failed to get better.
PS
Please also note that Toussaint was healthy for much of 2010, it was 2009 where he was injured and redshirted. In 2010 he was a backup who played and then started against Miss St in the bowl game.
Mgoblog preview in 2011 on toussaint: "he was healthy for chunks of last year and couldn't push his way past a thoroughly mediocre group in front of him"
My favorite is when lAnKt0bY uses YPC, after years of arguing against its meaningfulness (including TODAY, on this thread)
DeleteNot even lAnKt0bY believes lAnKt0bY
I KNOW YOU THINK I'M ABOVE IT BUT I'M HERE LIL BUDDY TO MEET YOU DOWN AT YOUR LEVEL WITH THE CRAYONS AT THE SANDBOX.
Delete#NO EMOJI'S TODAY?
#HARD DAY
Of course you're here lAnKt0bY. You need je93
Delete#obsessed
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LIKE IN 2022 ILLINOIS AND 2022 OSU AND 2024 ALABAMA MICHIGAN HAD ZERO GOOD OPTIONS BUT SUCCEEDED ANYWAY
ReplyDeleteYOU HIT ON EXACTLY THE POINT THUNDER. WHEN MICHIGAN LOST THEIR STAR CB AND REPLACED HIM WITH JAG/WHOEVER/REPLACEMENT LEVEL PLAYERS... IT WAS A PROBLEM.
DeleteCAN'T SAY THAT AT RB BECAUSE WHOEVER THEY PUT IN SUDDENLY IS NO LONGER JAG BUT LOOKS LIKE THE NEXT DUDE.
THATS THE DIFFERENCE.
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WHEN HASKINS PHYSICALITY WAS GONNA BE MISSED - CORUM LOOKED LIKE A STAR IN 22
WHEN CORUM WENT DOWN IN 22 SUPPOSED TO BE A PROBLEM VS OSU 22 - EDWARDS LOOKS LIKE A STAR
WHEN EDWARDS RETURNED TO EARTH IN 23 AND CONTINED TO LOOK EARTHBOUND IN EARLY 24 - MULLINGS LOOKS LIKE A STAR
WHEN MULLINGS/EDWARDS DEPART - MARSHALL LOOKS LIKE A STAR
WHEN OL AND ORJI DON'T CREATE ANYTHING FOR MARSHALL IN 25 - HAYNES LOOKS LIKE A STAR
THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN AT CB. YOU ACTUALLY NEED A GOOD PLAYER TO PLUG IN AT CB. YOU CAN'T JUST THROW IN A WALK ON LIKE WILSON OR GASH AND HAVE YOUR OFFENSE DO BETTER THAN IT DID WITH CORUM AGAINST A TOP DEFENSE LIKE ILLINOIS AND YOU CANT JUST LIKE SLIDE OVER A LB AND HAVE HIM USE BRUTE PHYISICALITY TO BE SUCCESFUL BEHIND HIS OL (AM I TALKING HASKINS OR MULLINGS WELL WHO KNOWS!).
THE POINT HERE IS IF YOU GO WITH YOUR REPLACEMENT LEVEL GUY AT RB YOU ARE OK BUT NOT SO AT OTHER MORE IMPORTANT SPOTS LIKE CB.
*part of that is that the replacement level guys at RB are so plentiful. How many former high school RBs are sitting are walk-on-types or special teamers?
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PS. WHILE I'M HERE. LETS TALK ABOUT ORJI SOME MORE
DeleteJORDAN MARSHALL AGAINST ALABAMA
WITH ORJI AT QB: 11 CARRIES FOR 67 YARDS
WITH WARREN AT QB: 12 CARRIES FOR 33 YARDS
IT WASN'T JUST MULLINGS DOING BEST WITH ORJI IT WASNT JUST THE TEAM DOING BETTER WITH ORJI WE ACTUALLY GOT ANOTHER SAME-GAME EXAMPLE OF WARREN VS ORJI AGAINST BAMA AND...THE OFFENSE MOVED THE BALL BETTER WITH ORJI.
AS HE DID FOR MULLINGS, ORJI MADE THE RB RUN GAME BETTER THAN WARREN'S PASSING "ABILITY". GIMMICK OR NO GIMMICK IT WORKED BETTER THAN WARREN.
So Jordan Marshall is a better RB with orji than Bryce? Bring back the gimmick!!!
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No coach wants this, no fan wants this, and not even lAnKt0bY wants this. Your point is impressively stupid AND irrelevant, even for you; just another failed attempt to mislead, easily exposed by je93
You're not bored, you're obsessed
Harbaugh > lAnKt0bY
Moore > lAnKt0bY
Mullings > lAnKt0bY
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#outsmarted
I'm not saying cornerbacks don't matter, but Michigan was missing its corner just a few seasons ago and literally started a walk-on in Keshaun Harris for the first few games of the season. And the defense was just fine. They have also imported Umass and FCS players and have been just fine.
DeleteSaying "Michigan was just fine when Hassan Haskins was replaced by backup Blake Corum" is silly, because Corum was a 4-star All-American who set Michigan records and got drafted in the middle rounds. Donovan Edwards was a top-100 player, too. Michigan was fine when Haskins/Corum got injured, not because running backs don't matter...but because Michigan was stacking talent at running back.
The stuff about Isaiah Gash is tired and silly. He had 3 carries for 6 yards and 3 catches for 24 yards, and part of his success catching the ball was probably that Illinois was like, "There's no way they're throwing to that dude OH WAIT THEY THREW TO THAT DUDE."
Will Johnson missed the last chunk of the 2024 season, and yes, Michigan got better on defense when he wasn't around by playing FCS transfer Aamir Hall, a raw redshirt freshman Jyaire Hill, and a converted safety/nickel Zeke Berry.
There are counterexamples at cornerback, too. They can't just be ignored.
ONE CAN FIND EXAMPLES OF REPLACEMENTS STEPPING IN WITH NO OBVIOUS IMPACT AT EVERY POSITION.
DeletePAUSE THERE FOR A SEC. READ IT AGAIN. NO ONE DISPUTES THIS.
SOMETIMES THAT IS BECAUSE THE REPLACEMENT IS A 'NEXT MAN UP' AND SOMETIMES IT IS BECAUSE THE TEAM ADJUSTED AND SOMETIMES IT IS BECAUSE THE OPPOSITION COULDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE BECAUSE THEY WERE OVERMATCHED.
IN THE CASE OF HARRIS -- THE OPPOSITION WAS UNLV AND ECU FACING THE ELITE D OF THE NATIONAL CHAMPS INCLUDING GRAHAM GRANT JENKINS ETC. GOOD LUCK PICKING ON THE SECONDARY!
NOW. PAUSE AGAIN. THAT'S NOT THE CHALLENGE. WHAT THE LOGIC HERE DICTATES -- THE CHALLENGE ISSUED -- IS FINDING A DIFFERENT KIND OF EXAMPLE WHERE THERE ***WAS*** A DROPOFF. WHEN IT ***DID*** MATTER -- TO THE OFFENSE OR THE DEFENSE TO LOSE A GUY.
AN EXAMPLE WHERE IT DIDN'T MATTER - WELL THAT'S LOW HANGING FRUIT. AN EXAMPLE WHERE IT DID MATTER - THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. ANYTHING ELSE IS A DODGE.
IF A POSITION ***MATTERS*** THERE SHOULD BE, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THINGS FALL APART.
THAT IS PROVIDED AT CB. THAT IS NOT PROVIDED AT RB.
IT'S A CRITICAL LOGICAL DIFFERENCE.
THE 'COUNTEREXAMPLE' HERE IS **NOT*** ONE OF THE TIMES WHERE IT DIDN'T MATTER AT CB. THE COUNTEREXAMPLE IS FIND A TIME WHERE IT DID MATTER.
ITS BROUGHT UP AT RB BECAUSE THOSE ARE TIMES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE CLAIMED IT WOULD BE A DISASTER AND IT WAS NOT. NO ONE SAID STARTING HARRIS AGAINST ECU WOULD BE A DISASTER. THEY DID SAY LOSING CORUM WOULD BE A DISASTER.
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"MICHIGAN WAS STACKING TALENT AT RB"
YES EXACTLY. MICHIGAN ALWAYS DOES THIS SO EVEN GUYS THAT GET CALLED OUT AS INEFFECTIVE OR LACKING ARE GUYS LIKE EDWARDS WHO MAKE NFL PRACTICE SQUADS WIN ACCOLADES AND START OVER OTHER GUYS. OR IF WE LOSE CORUM ***AND***EDWARDS ITS 4 STAR RECRUITS OR GUYS WHO WERE ELITE ATHLETES AT THE HS LEVEL AND PROBABLY HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE AT RB. THE REPLACEMENT LEVEL AT RB IS VERY HIGH.
"STUFF ABOUT ISIAH GASH"
IT'S NOT SILLY TO LOOK AT OFFENSIVE PRODUCTION, RATHER THAN TINY SAMPLE SIZES OF YPC STATS THAT INHERENTLY VARY (AS WE SAW LAST YEAR IN GAMES WHERE EDWARDS OUTPRODUCED MULLINGS DECISVILY BUT MULLINGS WAS BETTER ON THE SEASON).
ILLINIOS 22 AGAIN -- COMPARE THE FIRST HALF AND THE SECOND HALF. MICHIGAN'S OFFENSE WAS BETTER WITHOUT CORUM THAN WITH. THIS WAS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO! AND THE OFFENSE WAS BETTER. THIS IS A FACT. THE RESULTS ARE INDISPUTABLE. THE OFFENSE DID BETTER IN THE 2ND HALF THAN THE 1ST.
ITS NOT SILLY. ITS AN OBSERVABLE VERIFIABLE FACT THAT THE OFFENSE STRUGGLED MORE WITH CORUM THAN WITHOUT CORUM AGAINST ILLINOIS. THE RESULTS SPEAK VOLUMES.
WOULD IT LAST? WAS THE OFFENSE REALLY BETTER WITHOUT CORUM? NO! PROBABLY NOT. CORUM IS A LOT BETTER THAN GASH. BUT THE TEAM WEATHERED THIS BIG RB DROP OFF FINE, NOT ONLY CORUM TO EDWARDS BUT CORUM TO GASH, AGAINST AN ELITE DEFENSE.
THIS IS INSTRUCTIVE NOT BECAUSE ITS A TIME SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS REGULARLY HAPPENS ITS INSTRUCTIVE BECAUSE ITS AN ABSOLUTE WORST CASE SCENARIO. NOT ONLY GOING FROM STARTER TO BACKUP. NOT ONLY GOING FROM A GOAT TO A JAG. NOT ONLY GOING AGAINST A CUPCAKE BUT A REAL TEAM.
THIS IS LOSING BOTH YOUR TOP GUYS AND GOING FROM GOAT TO WALKON AGAINST A TOP 10 DEFENSE THAT WAS ALREADY SHUTTING DOWN YOUR PLAYOFF CALIBER TEAM.
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THE CHALLENGE CANT BE IGNORED EXCEPT THAT IT IS CONTINUALLY BEING IGNORED IN FAVOR OF --THE THING THAT EVERYONE AGREES HAPPENS SOMETIMES -- BEING POINTED OUT AGAIN (AKA DODGE)
TO JELLY YOU ARE REALLY ON ONE THIS TIME.
DeleteFACTS ARE FACTS. THE HYPOTHESIS THAT A WARREN FUELED PASS GAME DOES MORE TO OPEN UP RUN GAME COMPARED TO A ORJI FUELED RUN GAME DOES TO OPEN UP RUN GAME PROVED INCORRECT FOR BOTH THE SEASON (SEE MULLINGS) AND IN ONE GAME (SEE ALABAMA/MARSHALL).
YOU DONT LIKE FACTS AND NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT THAT BUT I KNOW YOU LIKE HASHTAGS SO
#HIU
My bad the comment TOMYSTAN at 130 should be anon as it was not written to JE specifically. I will correct going forward so that JE-specific responses are more clearly ALLCAPPED and TOMYSTAN and others are not
Delete#REAL WORRIED ABOUT USER NAMES
#eXpOsEd
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#AlLcApS
"no one disputes this" except lAnKt0bY, who has written dozens of essays on the topic
DeleteWho said "disaster?" The lies keep coming
Examples have been provided not just in the Illinois game, but the shift to the pass after corum's injury (not Harball) and forcing a converted LB to goaline carries (in a playoff!). Last year's bowl game too. Same field, same opponent. Only the RB is different. It mattered to the coaches. It mattered to the game plan. It matters for the play calling. It even matters to the players & fans
As for "stacking talent," I've provided a list of every RB Harbaugh recruited, versus the few who worked out. I can do the same for Sherrone Moore. Some don't work out because they're not good enough for MICHIGAN, the coaches and the Harball/SMASH philosophy. RB matters
You know all this, and ignore it. Cool. But you're only clowned because you spiral out of control, with username changes, multiple posts & replies (to yourself) and other flamer tactics
You've been wrong for years: RBs matter
#selfown
#whiteflag
#lanktoby
@toby 1:33PM,
You're dodging (in all caps) lAnKt0bY
Would you rather have orji hand the ball to Marshall or not? YOU brought this up ...
Your points are easily picked apart. Easily outsmarted
#jeDub
"Examples have been provided not just in the Illinois game, but the shift to the pass after corum's injury (not Harball) and forcing a converted LB to goaline carries (in a playoff!)."
DeleteTHE RESULTS ARE WHAT MATTERS. IT'S NOT ABOUT IDENTIY OR STYLE POINTS. THE QUESTION HERE IS -- DID OFFENSE GET THE JOB DONE? AND THEY DID! 2022 IS DEFINITIVE ABOUT THIS.
YOU KEEP SAYING "OTHER EXAMPLES" AND THEN DON'T GIVE THEM.
WHAT EXAMPLES DO YOU HAVE BEYOND 2022 WHEN IT DEFINITEVELY DIDN'T HURT THE TEAM.
ILLINOIS22 -- THE OFFENSE STUNK WITH CORUM, AND GOT BETTER WITHOUT HIM.
BUT I'LL PLAY YOUR DUMB GAME AND TALK ABOUT STYLE POINTS, JUST CUZ YOU'RE WRONG THERE TOO.
DID THEY REALLY SHIFT TO PASS MODE WITHOUT CORUM? LETS CHECK THE FACTS. TCU GAME JJ THREW 34 TIMES. NOT HARBALL? WELL I GUESS NEITHER WAS INDIANA WHEN JJ THREW 36 TIMES. 40 CARRIES IN BOTH GAMES. DID CORUM AVAILABILIITY CHANGE THINGS? NOPE. THE REASON THEY THREW MORE IS THAT THE TEAM WASN'T PROTECTING A LEAD.
OTHER GAME LIKE THAT WAS OSU 25 PASS ATTEMPTS TO 35 RUNS. ANALOG THERE (WITH CORUM) WAS THE CLOSE MARYLAND GAME WITH 26 PASS ATTEMPTS TO 40 RUSHES.
THESE NARRATIVES ARE TOO DUMB JELLY!! THEY ARE EASILY DISMISSED BY FACTS.
AND YEAH THEY MOVED MULLINGS TO BACKFILL WHEN CORUM AND EDWARDS WERE OUT. GUESS WHAT -- THAT WORKED OUT GREAT. MULLINGS PROVED TO BE A MORE THAN CAPABLE RB IMMEDIATELY SUCCESSFUL IN A SHORT YARDAGE SITUATIONS AND LONG TERM SUCCESSFUL AS A LEAD BACK.
YOU TAKE THAT AS A SIGN THAT RBS MATTER BUT YOU HAVE IT BACKWARDS ITS A SIGN THAT YOU CAN FLIP A HS RB FROM LB TO RB IN COLLEGE AND HAVE HIM UP TO SPEED AND CONTRIBUTING AT THE DROP OF A HAT.
NOW LAST YEARS BOWL GAME IS --ALSO-- AN EXAMPLE OF RBS NOT MATTERING. YOU HAD 2 NFL CALIBER BACKS AND YOU LOST THEM AND THE RUNNING GAME WAS EQUALLY EFFECTIVE (OSU VS BAMA RESULTS WERE THE SAME). AND NOW ALABAMA'S 3RD STRING BACK AND OUR 3RD STRING BACK ARE AN EFFECTIVE DUO.
"It even matters to the players & fans"
WELL YOU GOT ONE THING RIGHT. THE FANS CARE A LOT ABOUT RB NO DISPUTE.
"Some don't work out because they're not good enough for MICHIGAN, the coaches and the Harball/SMASH philosophy. RB matters"
GOBBLYGOOK. NOBODY ARGUES IT DOESN'T WORKOUT FOR SOME RBS. THAT IS WHOLELY IRRELEVANT TO THE ARGUMENT HERE. TRY TO KEEP UP JELLY. YOU CAN FANTASIZE YOUR WAY TO A DUB HERE. WHAT YOU CAN DO IS
#HIU
PS
NEXT POINT YOU PICK APART WILL BE THE FIRST
PLEASE DO IT THOUGH! DONT BE BORING.
"would you rather have orji hand the ball to Marshall or not? YOU brought this up ..."
DeleteHAHAHAHA. DID I THOUGH? OR ARE YOU HAVING A FANTASY?
WAS I COMPARING WARREN V ORJI OR WAS I COMPARING UNDERWOOD V ORJI.
HMMMMM. LETS THINK WHAT AN ANALYSIS OR MARSHALL CARRIES WITH WARREN VS MARSHALL CARRIES WITH ORJI MIGHT BE CLAIMING.
BUT HAVE FUN MY AMIGO. --- ###JE DUB LANK THINKS ORJI IS BETTER THAN UNDERWOOD OUTSMARTED###
LOL. WELL HATS OFF THIS ONE IS NOT BORING AND VERY FUNNY
#TODAYS FANTASY
#YOU BROUGHT IT UP = EVERY ACCUSATION
#HIU
no, @lAnKt0bY 2:5oPM. The question is and always has been "do RBs matter"
Delete#takeyourL
The other game was the Reliaquest Bowl ...
#anotherL
Was there a difference between Marshall and Hall at RB? YES. Why? Because RB matters, lAnKt0bY
Why did they move Mullings, if they had other RBs in the room? Because RB matters, lAnKt0bY
#tooEasy
Why would Edwards - a fan favorite & video game cover - be benched for Mullings? Because RB matters, lAnKt0bY
Did the coaches make these moves lAnKt0bY? YES. Why? Because RB matters lAnKt0bY
#isenseameltdown
Why was Don undrafted, while the LB convert was drafted? Why is the latter active, and the former on a practice squad? Because RB matters, lAnKt0bY
Why wouldn't all the Harbs/SMASH RBs work? Why have so many failed? Because RB matters lAnKt0bY
#jeDub
Here's a thought, maybe you should ask AI (again)
maybe I should search the Archives for examples of when we've been through this before. How about a ... BET?
#betmelAnKt0bY
@lAnkt0bY 2:54PM, you dodged again
#whiteflagaccepted
YES LIL AMIGO RBS DONT MATTER STILL DOESNT MEAN RBS ARE ALL THE SAME.
DeleteRBS DONT MATTER STILL DOESNT MEAN NO ONE CHANGES POSITIONS.
RBS DONT MATTER STILL DOESNT NOT MEAN THE POSITION DOES NOT EXIST ON NFL ROSTERS.
THESE ARE YOUR FANTASIES BRO. EVERY "JEDUB" IS A FANTASY.
THESE ARE ALL DODGES BECAUSE YOU ***STILL**** CANT FIND AN EXAMPLE OF WHEN A RB WENT DOWN AND IT HURT THE OFFENSE IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY. THATS WHY YOU HAVE STREEEEEEEEEEEETCH AND DOOOOOOODGE SO DANG HARD.
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EDWARDS GETTING BENCHED (WHILE STARTING?) IS ALSO YOUR FANTASY. PLAYING TIME PEAKED IN 2024 DESPITE MISSING LAST 2 GAMES. 50/50 SPLIT UNDER MOORE BUT YOU STILL MAD ABOUT HARBAUGH CHOOSING EDWARDS OVER MULLINGS (EVERYTIME) EVEN THO "HARBALL". THE FACTS ARE NOT YOUR FRIEND.
OH MARSHALL MATTERED VS BAMA BUT NOT VS UNM? NEYBY!
#RENTFREE
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Let's make sure we have the facts on Mullings straight.
DeleteMullings was a LB through his first 3 seasons at UM. This is in large part because there was no opportunity for playing time at RB (even Charbonnet transferred out after 2020) and a need at LB with Nichai HIll Green injured leading up to 2022.
As Mgoblog put it in the lead up to 2022:
"The early camp hype around Mullings was centered on his potential at RB, but then drifted back towards LB, perhaps coinciding with NHG's "soft tissue" injury. Michigan needs bodies at ILB and Mullings is a body."
However, Mullings was not a very good LB. As Mgoblog put it, Mullings was a 2020 recruit and "The goal was to teach him how to play LB and maybe in a few years, you have something on your hands. ". But it seemed that indeed the team did NOT "have something" with Mullings as a LB.
This came to a head during the 2022 season. Mullings started the year as LB3 behind Colson and Barrett, averaging around 20 snaps a game in the 3 non-conference blowouts. But in the conference schedule it because clear he was ineffective. Against Maryland he had a UFR -15 in 27 snaps. Against PSU he got a UFR -7 in just 9 snaps. After that was fully passed by a true freshman (Jimmy Rolder). Mullings got a DNP against Rutgers and Nebraska while Rolder took the backup role. Next there was the fateful Illinois game where Mullings played LB late beside Rolder, only after Colson got hurt. He had a UFR -5.5 in 10 snaps.
So you had 2 things happening here in November '22. One is that the opportunity window at LB was closed with Mullings. He was a failed LB at this point getting benched in favor of Rolder in the short term and for next year Michigan was expecting Colson, Barrett, NHG, and Rolder back so no room for Mullings to do much of anything other than be a deep bench reserve and special team contributor. Two is that Michigan's top 2 RBs were injured.
With Edwards health uncertain (broken hand is kinda a big deal for a guy who thrives at pass catching especially) and Corum looking likely out for the year Michigan's RB options were: a true soph who clearly didn't have "it", a true freshman under 200 pounds, and walk-ons. Even though they had just had a come from behind win with that trio against Illinois it's pretty obvious that the options were limited and subpar. In this unusual circumstance of losing not only your starter but your backup to injuries Michigan could use help at RB. So what do you do? You throw the physically impressive but underperforming LB into the RB rotation and maybe you can at least use him on short yardage...
We all know how the story goes from there. You saw that Mullings ended up being an excellent fit at RB. He was IMMEDIATELY effective at it, rushing for 2 TDs in the Big Ten championship. He found his home, emerged as RB3 in 2023 earning meaningful snaps beyond just short-yardage and busted out in his 5th year 2024 - although nominally a backup he was actually a co-starter splitting snaps 50/50 with Edwards and earning substantially more carries and starring in several games rushing for over 100 yards 4 times (Ark State, USC, Minn, and OSU).
FATE and OPPORTUNITY intervened to push Mullings away from where he wasn't needed to where he belonged. Mullings didn't move to RB because RB was more important than LB. In fact, he played at LB for 3 years (which also doens't mean LB is more important than RB). Once it was clear he had minimal value as a LB, Michigan moved him to fill a rare and unusal need at RB.
This tells us nothing about positional value.
DeleteIf anything Mullings spending 3 years at LB tells you that Michigan values LB more than RB. To put an elite power athlete like Mullings at a position where he had a steep learning curve (LB) over the one he played in high school and looked more promising at (short yardage RB) way back after the 2021 season. Until being all but forced into doing something else, Michigan preferred Mullings at LB.
Mgoblog speculating on Mullings at RB back in 2022:
"Mullings was only referenced as a linebacker during Harbaugh's depth chart dump. On a third hand I just grew for this sentence, Alejandro Zuniga came back from a recent NIL event reporting that Mullings is "still practicing at running back and looking good at it" and he "continues to feature as a short-yardage back." So… I don't know."
" since Corum isn't a pile mover and Edwards shouldn't be one, there's an opening for a third back in the move-the-chains, terrorize-the-fishing-village archetype. This preview wants that guy to be KALEL MULLINGS [recruiting profile], who may still be a linebacker but probably shouldn't be unless there's a cliff after the two ILB starters"
That proved prescient.
The only part that was wrong was assuming that Corum couldn't push a pile. So Mullings wasn't really needed at RB until those 2 injuries struck in '22. RB3 didn't matter to the coaches until those 2 injuries struck, they were more concerned about LB4. And then even with Edwards hurt they still didn't use the weapon (Mullings SMASH) as RB2 they kept him out of the rotation as LB4.
good ol je93 is toby's first thought in the morning ... okay, not boring
DeleteYou dodged each question, and you dodged the bet ... even after I offered AI (again). But you're conceding that RB matters! Yay
#whiteflagaccepted
#orelsetakethebet
#jeDub
@lAnKt0bY 1:o2PM,
How many hours do you invest per day on je93?
Anyway, you're still dodging. Why was Mullings "earning hype?" Why was Mullings "IMMEDIATELY effective" at RB? Why didn't Dunalp "have it?"
Because RB matters, lAnKt0bY
Must suck to invest hours and essays on je93, and still get owned
#yEp
#aNoN
#t0mYsTaN
#lAnKt0bY
3 replies and 3 usernames in 2 hours, on a post that's a week old
#obsessed
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ME (EATING GOURMET SOUP): MMMM THIS TASTES SO GOOD
ReplyDeleteME (DROPS SPOON): OOPS. TOO BAD. OH WELL I'LL JUST USE ANOTHER SPOON I GUESS, SHOULD BE FINE.
JELLY: NO YOU CANT EAT ANYMORE. THE SILVER SPOON IS GONE. THE SOUP IS RUINED.
ME: UHHH IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO ME. I DON'T NEED A SILVER SPOON I'LL JUST USE A DIFFERENT SPOON.
JELLY: SPOONS ARE DIFFERENT. ITS NOT THE SAME SPOON. YOU NEED ANOTHER SILVER SPOON.
ME: I DISAGREE. YES IT IS A DIFFERENT SPOON BUT I DONT HAVE A SILVER SPOON AVAILABLE AND IT DOESNT REALLY MATTER TO ME. I NEED A SPOON ANY SPOON. HOW GOOD THE SOUP IS - THAT IS WHAT MATTERS.
JELLY: NO A SPOON THAT ISNT SILVER ISNT THE SAME. EVERYONE AGREES BUT YOU.
ME (PICKS UP PLASTIC SPOON AND EATS): MMMM. DELICIOUS
JELLY: PLASTIC SPOONS ARE NOT HARBALL.
ME: HARBALL? THAT'S NOT A SOUP. THAT'S NOT EVEN A WORD. I'M GONNA KEEP EATING THE DELICIOUS SOUP WITH THIS PLASTIC SPOON. THE SPOON ITSELF IS INFERIOR, NO DOUBT, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. THE SOUP MATTERS.
JELLY: YOU CAN REPLACE SOUPS AND THEY CAN BOTH BE DELICIOUS.
ME: OK?
JELLY: PLASTIC IS DIFFERENT THAN SILVER IDIOT. SILVER IS WAY STRONGER. JEDUB!
ME: I'M JUST SAYING. THIS SOUP STILL TASTES AWESOME. STRENGTH OF THE SPOON IS NOT THE POINT HERE.
JELLY: NO THE SPOON IS NOT AS GOOD. IT DOESN'T LOOK AS GOOD. PLASTIC SUCKS. SPOONS MATTER.
ME: THE INGREDIENTS ARE THE SAME AND THE SOUP STILL TASTES AWESOME. THE SPOON DOESNT MATTER.
JELLY: NO. GOOD MEALS REQUIRE SILVER SPOONS. JEDUB!
ME: I'M EATING THE SOUP. I ASSURE YOU. ITS GOOD. SPOONS DONT MATTER
JELLY: PLASTIC ISNT SILVER. PLASTIC SUCKS. SO SPOONS MATTER. JEDUB!
ME: HERE ARE RESTAURANT REVIEWS THAT PROVE THE SOUP IS GOOD SERVED AT LOCATIONS USING SILVER SPOONS AND PLASTIC SPOONS ALIKE. IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IN REVIEWS. SPOONS DONT MATTER. GOOD SPOONS, BAD SPOONS, WHAT MATTERS IN SOUP-EATING IS HOW GOOD THE SOUP IS.
JELLY: THESE ARE DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS USING DIFFERENT SPOONS. OUTSMARTED! SILVER SPOONS MATTER. JEDUB!
Holy crap, I've got Lank hallucinating
DeleteSome advice: clear your browser; don't let your family see what I've reduced you to ... LMAO, fAnTaSy
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OUTSMARTED? DOESNT KNOW OR JUST PRETENDING?
DeleteEITHER WAY #HIU
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Do they know?
DeleteREMEMBER WHEN CORUM WASN'T HARBALL?
ReplyDeleteNEITHER MGOBLOG NOR TTB SAW CORUM AS A BETWEEN THE TACKLES SHORT YARDAGE GUY HEADING INTO 22
https://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2022/08/2022-season-countdown-39-kalel-mullings.html
"With Josh Ross out of the way in 2022, that gives Mullings a chance to move up to the #3 guy again. But he also could potentially be the #3 running back. Mullings pulled double duty in the spring as Michigan's staff looked for an answer to replace Hassan Haskins as a short yardage/power running back"
HARBAUGH SAID NO THANKS I'VE GOT CORUM/EDWARDS IM GOOD I DON'T NEED "HARBALL".
WHAT HE NEEDED WAS A BACKUP LB.
UNTIL HIS TOP 2 GUYS AT RB WENT DOWN HE SHRUGGED. AT RB DEPTH BEYOND EDWARDS. AT A HAVING A BIGGER BACK THAN CORUM. AT HAVING A GOALLINE SPECIALIST. HE SHRUGGED AT ALL OF IT.
"HARBALL" DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING!
ITS A FANTASY
MOORE ELEVATED MULLINGS INTO A BIG ROLE ON PAR WITH EDWARDS
NEVER HARBAUGH. NOT IN 20. NOT IN 21. NOT IN 22. NOT IN 23.
Who said Corum couldn't do it? After he rocked up, most were all in
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Moore elevated Mullings over other RBs - incl your boy Cabana - because they were not SMASH. Harbaugh didn't have to, because he had Corum
The best player ascends. What does that mean, lAnKt0bY? RB matters
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