Here's a roundup of the former Michigan player, former commits, and former coaches (or players-turned-coaches). NOTE: I will not regularly post updates about offensive linemen since stats are minimal and just posting PFF grades is kind of boring, but I did this week just to show who's playing where and what their opening day role was.
FORMER PLAYERS
WR Andrel Anthony (Oklahoma): Anthony has not played since week one due to an injury.
LB Jeremiah Beasley (Missouri): Beasley made 1 tackle in a 45-3 win over UMass.
QB Alan Bowman (Oklahoma State): Oklahoma State (3-3) had a bye following their third straight loss. So far this season, Bowman is completing 59.3% of his passes for 12 touchdowns and 8 interceptions.
LB Semaj Bridgeman (Michigan State): Bridgeman has not recorded any stats yet this year for MSU.
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CB Cam Calhoun (Utah): Calhoun had 2 tackles and 1 pass breakup in a 27-19 loss to Arizona State.
C Zach Carpenter (Miami): Carpenter is Miami's starting center.
WR Darrius Clemons (Oregon State): Clemons made 5 catches for 39 yards in a 42-37 loss to Nevada.
WR Karmello English (West Georgia): English made 9 catches for 143 yards in a 34-33 loss to Central Arkansas.
TE Louis Hansen (UConn): UConn (4-2) had a bye. Hansen has 8 catches for 54 yards this season.
WR A.J. Henning (Northwestern): Henning made 3 catches for 61 yards in a 37-10 win over Maryland.
OG Amir Herring (Kansas): Herring is a backup offensive guard for Kansas.
TE Matt Hibner (SMU): SMU (5-1) had a bye. Hibner has 2 catches for 31 yards this year.
LB Nikhai Hill-Green (Colorado): Hill-Green had 10 tackles and 1 pass breakup in a 31-28 loss to Kansas State.
K Cole Hussung (Louisville): Hussung is a backup kicker for Louisville.
WR Giles Jackson (Washington): Jackson made 9 catches for 63 yards in a 40-16 loss to Iowa.
WR George Johnson III (FAU): Johnson did not record any stats in a 41-37 loss to North Texas.
DE Aaron Lewis (Rutgers): Lewis made 1 tackle in a 42-7 loss to Wisconsin.
QB Cade McNamara (Iowa): McNamara completed 8/14 passes for 108 yards and 2 touchdowns in a 40-16 win over Washington.
LB Hayden Moore (Washington): Moore did not record any stats in a 40-16 loss to Iowa.
S Jordan Morant (Mississippi State): Morant did not record any stats in a 41-31 loss to Georgia.
S R.J. Moten (Florida): Moten made 1 tackle in a 23-17 loss to Tennessee.
DT George Rooks (Boston College): Boston College (4-2) had a bye. Rooks has 17 tackles, 1.5 tackles for loss, and 1 sack this year.
S Keon Sabb (Alabama): Sabb made 12 tackles in a 27-25 win over South Carolina.
LB Deuce Spurlock (Florida): Spurlock has yet to record any stats this season.
OT Jack Stewart (UConn): Stewart is a backup offensive lineman for UConn.
RB C.J. Stokes (Charlotte): Charlotte (3-3) had a bye. Stokes has 7 carries for 33 yards and 1 touchdown this year. He also has 1 catch for 6 yards.
WR Jake Thaw (Delaware): Thaw had 5 catches for 34 yards and 2 touchdowns in a 44-21 win over Maine.
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LB Joey Velazquez (Ohio State): Velazquez did not record any stats in a 32-31 loss to Oregon.
TE Dan Villari (Syracuse): Villari had 4 carries for 11 yards and 1 catch for 6 yards in a 24-17 win over North Carolina State.
CB D.J. Waller (Kentucky): Waller made 2 tackles in a 20-13 loss to Vanderbilt.
LB Cornell Wheeler (Kansas): Kansas (1-5) had a bye. Wheeler has 24 tackles, 3 tackles for loss, and 3 pass breakups this season.
FORMER COMMITS
DE Collins Acheampong (UCLA): Acheampong did not record any stats in 21-17 loss to Minnesota.
LB Aaron Alexander (Michigan State): Michigan State (3-3) had a bye. Alexander has 2 tackles this season.
WR Markus Allen (Eastern Michigan): Allen had 3 catches for 20 yards in a 38-14 loss to Miami-OH.
DE Ethan Burke (Texas): Burke made 2 tackles, 1 tackle for loss, and 1 sack in a 34-3 win over Oklahoma in the Red River Shootout.
S Taylor Groves (Ole Miss): Groves did not play in a 29-26 loss to LSU.
LB Tyler Martin (UMass): Martin made 4 tackles in a 45-3 loss to Missouri.
OG Micah Mazzccua (Nebraska): Mazzccua is a starting offensive guard for Nebraska.
DT Davonte Miles (BGSU): Miles made 2 tackles and 0.5 tackles for loss in a 17-7 loss to Northern Illinois.
TE Andrew Rappleyea (Penn State): Rappleyea did not play in a 33-30 win over USC.
S Myles Rowser (Arizona State): Rowser made 6 tackles and 1 pass breakup in a 27-19 win over Utah.
DE Elias Rudolph (Miami): Miami (6-0) had a bye. Rudolph has 1 tackle this year.
DE Jacob Smith (Kentucky): Smith did not play in a 20-13 loss to Vanderbilt.
LB Jaden Smith (Kentucky): Smith did not play in a 20-13 loss to Vanderbilt.
DT Jerod Smith (Kentucky): Smith did not record any stats in a 20-13 loss to Vanderbilt.
DT Joel Starlings (North Carolina): Starlings did not play in a 41-34 loss to Georgia Tech.
DT Alex VanSumeren (Michigan State): Michigan State (3-3) had a bye. VanSumeren has 8 tackles, 1 tackle for loss, and 1 sack this year.
DT Denver Warren (Sam Houston State): Sam Houston State (5-1) had a bye. Warren has 5 tackles, 1 tackle for loss, 1 sack, and 1 quarterback hurry.
LB Raylen Wilson (Georgia): Wilson made 1 tackle in a 41-31 win over Mississippi State.
FORMER COACHES
Don Brown (Head Coach, UMass): Brown is now 1-6 after a 45-3 loss to Missouri.
Ross Douglas (Wide Receivers Coach, Syracuse): Douglas is in his first season coaching the receivers at Syracuse under new head coach Fran Brown.
Jedd Fisch (Head Coach, Washington): Fisch and the Huskies are 4-3 after a 40-16 loss to Iowa.
JaRaymond Hall (Asst. OL Coach, Wayne State): Hall is now the assistant offensive line coach and director of recruiting for Wayne State under head coach Tyrone Wheatley, who recruited Hall to Michigan in 2017.
Scot Loeffler (Head Coach, BGSU): Loeffler is 2-4 after a 17-7 loss to Northern Illinois.
Curt Mallory (Head Coach, Indiana State): Mallory is 2-4 after a 31-27 win over Murray State.
Jim McElwain (Head Coach, Central Michigan): Central Michigan is sitting at 3-3 after a 27-25 loss to Ohio.
Desmond Morgan (Defensive Assistant, Memphis): Morgan is a defensive assistant at Memphis this season.
Biff Poggi (Head Coach, Charlotte): Charlotte is 3-3 and had a bye week.
Denard Robinson (Running Backs Coach, Lead Prep Academy): Robinson has been hired as the new running backs coach at Lead Prep Academy in Michigan.
Rich Rodriguez (Head Coach, Jacksonville State): Jacksonville State improved to 3-3 after a 54-13 win over New Mexico State.
Roy Roundtree (Wide Receivers Coach, Miami-OH): Roundtree is in his first season at Miami-OH as the wide receivers coach.
Tyrone Wheatley (Head Coach, Wayne State): Wheatley is 0-6 after a 27-14 loss to Ferris State.
8/14 passes for 108 yards against Washington? Must have lost the game with such modest pass stats.
ReplyDelete...unless they avoided turnovers and kept the opposing offense in check and ran the ball down their throats.
LOL. I know turnovers aren't literally everything but Iowa is 4-0 when McNamara doesn't throw any INTs and 0-2 when he does. McNamara averages less than 90 yards passing a game, excluding their 2 cupcakes.
There's still a path for this Michigan team to have a nice solid top 25 finish after going 9-4. But if they do it they are going to have to cut out games where their QB is handing multiple turnovers to the other team.
JJ was 7/8 for 60 yards against Penn State last year. We won and no one was complaining. Given the current roster, Michigan should try to run the Iowa offense (disclaimer: I do not watch Iowa games just the highlights). But it looks like they run a lot (70-80% run) and pass via play action (almost no designed pass for Cade). Then we choose the QB that can do what Cade does in the 33yards TD pass against Washington. I think that QB is Tuttle (followed by Davis then Orji).
DeleteIf you want to use Orji as the main QB, that is fine too. But design an offensive scheme that makes use of Orji's supposed running ability (the coaches have not done that). They are trying to shoehorn Orji into a dropback passer which he is not. I am not a coach but I think Orji is the perfect triple option QB. But for the current offense the coaches are running? He should have more run attempts than pass attempts.
I'm no coach either, but doesn't an option offense require a QB who is *really* good at seeing things in real-time, and making good decisions at the very last moment?
DeleteThe problem with Tuttle is - even when the rust is off - he's still very injury prone
Deletematt & seth had a PFF nerd on the other day, who was much higher on Warren than most, and interesting data to back him. I just don't see it. But my guess is that the longer Tuttle starts, the more likely Warren is next man up, leaving Orji in his 2o23 gimmick role
We cannot really do anything about injuries. Hopefully, by running 75% of the time, we can reduce the injury risk. At the end of the day, Orji can still play an important role as a "gimmick QB". Give him a drive or two with specific play call in mind. Might work if the opponent has the wrong personnel on defense.
Delete@Anon You are right that you need to have good decision making ability as an option QB and Orji has not shown it thus far. In any case, we are not going to see that happening at Michigan.
DeleteIn my eyes Tuttle and Orji are pretty alike in how they are used in this Michigan offense. Yes, Tuttle is a better passer - but he is not a good one and did not throw downfield much more than Orji. Yes, Orji is a better runner - but he is not used in a way as a runner that is substantially better than how Tuttle is used.
DeleteThe decision-making ability is a tough thing to assess because we as fans (and arm-chair analysts) can't even agree if a read is live or pre-determined. But FWIW I agree - they are not repping the zone read decisions that you need to rep to turn this into a strong Qb-run. Tuttle can be a more effective runner (due to decision-making) even if he has less talent as a runner than Orji.
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@FTOctober 15, 2024 at 2:55 AM
"JJ was 7/8 for 60 yards against Penn State last year."
It's not an issue if you win and we have faith that you can throw when we need to. Orji beat USC and Minny but he's never had an impressive passing game. So folks are unhappy about that.
As far as going forward -- I would love for Davis to get to a place where he can be on the field but it does not sound like he is close.
Given the above I think we should rotate Tuttle and Orji. If you have 2 QBs you have none is a dangerous game except when you already know you don't have a QB LOL. Need to focus on who is getting most out of the offense (not the most passing yards) and avoiding putting the defense in bad positions (turnovers, field position, time-of-possession).
Two things that are completely unrealistic, IMO
1 - Pretending that Michigan is going to change it's offense to optimize for Orji. Orji is a stop-gap QB and will not be the starter in 2025 unless there is an injury. They have said it and shown it - they are not changing the offense. It's a fantasy to think they will do that for a guy who is different than every other QB they are bringing in.
2 - Pretending that Warren is legitimate option to start again. The notion that Warren has the talent to play at this level is a fantasy and has always been a fantasy. He showed that against Texas (compete ineptitude until garbage time) but he showed it even more obviously against Fresno and Arkansas State.
Looks like Karmello English maybe angling for a promotion and NIL payday this offseason.
ReplyDeleteI'd missed that Vanderbilt beat Kentucky this past weekend. Good for them ... after an emotional win over Alabama the week before, a let-down loss to a team like Kentucky would not have been shocking. But Vanderbilt stood tall and notched another win. Again, good for them. There's hope for the little guy.
ReplyDeleteTyrone Wheatley might best start thinking about what he wants to do, other than being a head coach. An overall record of 8-33 (Morgan State and Wayne State) does not bode well long-term. Don Brown might best start thinking about retirement.
The world of college football is becoming both discouraging and interesting, in that players are shuffling about so rapidly. For every one 'good story' about a player transferring to a lesser school and getting a starting role, there's several cases of players transferring and riding pine, then transferring again and riding pine. The psychology of that would be interesting to study; that is, how young players cope with the transition from dreams of stardom to the realization that life is offering them something else.
I don't think this transfer-mad era will last. It's good for individual players who are getting paid by jumping around but it stinks for fans and IMO it's not good for student athletes.
DeleteAs much as we focus on the elite players who are NFL bound it's worth remembering that most college football players are going to be accountants, salesmen, and middle managers than pro football players. Probably jumping around from school to school is not in their best interest.
Anyway some struggle is good for character. Jumping to a lesser challenge where success is ensured is not the best path for many.
I agree it's not generally good for the young person, and I agree the era of frequent transfers will come to an end. How it comes to an end may not be a move to the better however. It seems the trajectory is towards some kind of contractual commitment between school and athlete, and with that we'll see stories of young people exploited and locked into situations where they'd be better served elsewhere. How the details of all this are going to shake out, I don't know. But i have a bad feeling.
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